[Mobile.AI] some basic questions on android.

Mujeeb Rahman m4mujeebrahman at gmail.com
Tue Feb 25 00:26:15 EST 2014


Go to Play store>my apps>Talkback, there you could see the update
button. Simply double tap on it, you should be done.

On 2/25/14, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasudani at rbi.org.in> wrote:
> Please can anybody give step by step directions on updating talk back in my
> samsung grand?
>
>
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> From: Mobile.accessindia
> [mailto:mobile.accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mahesh
> S. Panicker
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 4:07 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] some basic questions on android.
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> A TalkBack update does not update your TTS. As such there is nothing
> more to write about it. The default TTS on most phones these days is
> the Google TTS. An update to the TTS has constrained certain voice
> options, so if you don't want the TTS situation on your phone to
> change, just not update/install Google TTS. Keep TalkBack updated, it
> is independent of the TTS. You can also use other TTS voices with
> TalkBack. The free eSpeak by the Eyes-Free Group could be one option,
> there is a paid version of eSpeak available from another developer
> that provides more eSpeak voices including the Klatt variant. But the
> free version is fine. If you have to change the TTS option, you can
> change it from settings/language and input.
> Best,
>
> On 2/24/14, Mujeeb Rahman <m4mujeebrahman at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Can you please write more about updating talkback without TTS?
>>
>>
>> On 2/24/14, Mahesh S. Panicker <maheshspanicker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> And if you are comfortable with TTS engins such as eSpeak, you can get
>>> both the male as well as female voice variants.
>>>
>>> On 2/24/14, jignesh thakur <jigneshthakur21 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> an update of talkback has nothing to do with male and female voice.
>>>> so update your talkback, but not tts if you want to use male voice.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/24/14, Mujeeb Rahman <m4mujeebrahman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Thank you. I prefer TTS with male voice and hence do not want to go
>>>>> for an update. Although I hope continues practice can make it
>>>>> possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/22/14, Mahesh S. Panicker <maheshspanicker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Think what is happening is that you are losing TalkBack focus. You
>>>>>> have to swipe close to the message field itself so that the focus
>>>>>> won't shift to the next item. Also make sure you have the latest
>>>>>> version of TalkBack running on your phone, in the latest version, the
>>>>>> Eyes-Free team had paid some attention to the focus getting diverted
>>>>>> every so often, and it is a lot more stable now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/22/14, Mujeeb Rahman <m4mujeebrahman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to  make a request at this point. After following the
>>>>>>> juster like you said, if I select the word gramularity as the mode
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> announces only first word and if I swipe right it's reading the
>>>>>>> entire
>>>>>>> message instead the next word. Am I missing something in between?
>>>>>>> Please answer this too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mujeeb
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/22/14, Mahesh S. Panicker <maheshspanicker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> With regard to granularity, you can assign different gestures under
>>>>>>>> TalkBack settings, but it'll be better if you could get hold of the
>>>>>>>> original method before trying that. Don't worry about Android and
>>>>>>>> touchscreen, you'll be absolutely fine in a couple of weeks at
>>>>>>>> most.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/22/14, Mahesh S. Panicker <maheshspanicker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> As for dragging the icon, doubletap and hold, you should get an
>>>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>>> chime as well as haptic feedback that suggest that the longpress
>>>>>>>>> action is performed. Without lifting the finger, you can then drag
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> finger around.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/22/14, Shireen Irani <shireen.eye at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> many thanx sir for your detailed explanation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> yes i was suggested by friends on the list to use dw contacts,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>> will install it soon. hopefully that should solv some of my
>>>>>>>>>> probs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> however i'm still unable to implement the rest of your
>>>>>>>>>> suggestions.
>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>> tried to dubble tap and drag the messaging icon from inside the
>>>>>>>>>> apps
>>>>>>>>>> on to the main screen but obviously i'm not doing it correctly,
>>>>>>>>>> cause
>>>>>>>>>> it's not happening. anyway i'll play around with it for a few
>>>>>>>>>> days
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> see where it goes.
>>>>>>>>>> even the answer to the 4th q seems a bit too complecated right
>>>>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>>> but i'll keep trying.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> like i tell every1 this is an aranged marriage with no scope for
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> seperation. because android is all we have now. so learning to
>>>>>>>>>> live
>>>>>>>>>> with it is the only way. smile.
>>>>>>>>>> thank u for your help, i'll keep at it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/21/14, Mahesh S. Panicker <maheshspanicker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, let me try. I don't have the answers for all the
>>>>>>>>>>> questions,
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> I shall try with 1,3 and 4. I also use the same phone and I
>>>>>>>>>>> assume
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> are using DW Contacts or a similar application as your dialer.
>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> are not using DW Contacts and Dialer, then I would recommend you
>>>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>>> it a go, not only as your dialer, but also as your contacts
>>>>>>>>>>> manager.
>>>>>>>>>>> Now on to the questions. As for the main screen, Android works
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> the concept of Homescreens that are similar to the desktop on a
>>>>>>>>>>> windows computer. On the Q 700, there are 5 homescreens
>>>>>>>>>>> available.
>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>> different application icons are located on these 5 homescreens.
>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>> can move from one homescreen to he other by doing a 2 finger
>>>>>>>>>>> swipe
>>>>>>>>>>> from right to left, you can move back by swiping left to right.
>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> can locate an icon on the homescreen, you can doubletap and hold
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> couple of seconds, and drag the icon to your preferred location
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> screen. If the icon is not there, then you can doubletap the
>>>>>>>>>>> apps
>>>>>>>>>>> icon, locate the concerned app icon, doubletap and hold it and
>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>> drag it on to the homescreen. Even within the apps screen, you
>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>> move forward or back by page through a 2 finger swipe right to
>>>>>>>>>>> left
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> left right. All this might appear a bit too complicated, but you
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> be fine in a few days.
>>>>>>>>>>> Now on to the 3rd question. Asuming you are using DW Contacts.
>>>>>>>>>>> Doubletap the DW icon on the homescreen. Towards the left bottom
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> the DW screen, you would find the Phone option. Doubletap to
>>>>>>>>>>> activate
>>>>>>>>>>> the same. The screen will show the dial pad with the last few
>>>>>>>>>>> calls
>>>>>>>>>>> you made or received on top of it. Just touch the virtual back
>>>>>>>>>>> key
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> exit the dial pad. explore the screen, and when you locate the
>>>>>>>>>>> concerned number, doubletap and hold to long press. A set of
>>>>>>>>>>> options
>>>>>>>>>>> will come up. select the option you want, including 'add this
>>>>>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>>>>> to contacts' and remove from call list'. If you have to add the
>>>>>>>>>>> number, follow the prompts on the given screen. Basically, add
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> name on the given edit field and ones you are done, doubletap
>>>>>>>>>>> 'Done'.
>>>>>>>>>>> Now on to number 4. This is a rather complicated aspect of
>>>>>>>>>>> Android
>>>>>>>>>>> accessibility that they call Granularity. After opening a
>>>>>>>>>>> message,
>>>>>>>>>>> explore to the message field. Then perform a swipe up and then
>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>> gesture. Ones that is successfully done, you explore the screen
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> circle. When TalkBack says something like 'Change Granularity',
>>>>>>>>>>> lift
>>>>>>>>>>> your finger. Again explore in a circle, lift the finger on the
>>>>>>>>>>> preferred mode of granularity, that is word, character, line,
>>>>>>>>>>> paragraph and so on. After selecting the mode of granularity you
>>>>>>>>>>> want,
>>>>>>>>>>> swipe from left to right to move by the specified mode.
>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this is of some help,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/21/14, Shireen Irani <shireen.eye at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> although some people would have preferred me to ask these in
>>>>>>>>>>>> separate
>>>>>>>>>>>> mails, i think it would just add to the trafic. so here's a
>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> them, please answer whatever possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>> since i've just joined the android freturnity thanx to harish,
>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> using a xolo q 700I. and i now wish to know the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. how do i get my most used applications such as messaging
>>>>>>>>>>>> contacts
>>>>>>>>>>>> etc on the main screen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. how can i turn of the predictive text fascility for text
>>>>>>>>>>>> messages??
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. how to delete a missed call after i have seen it?? and, how
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> add
>>>>>>>>>>>> that same number as a new contact??
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. how to read an sms by word or character??
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. is there a way to mute talkback while i'm on a call?? or
>>>>>>>>>>>> rather,
>>>>>>>>>>>> how can i lock the screen while on a call.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> hope some1 has the patience to answer these. will be grateful.
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanx.
>>>>>>>>>>>> shireen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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