[AI] Effectively organizing religious ceremonies andparticipating in them, and concerning latest EVO E5 Firmware Version

Arijeet Patil arijeetvinaypatil at gmail.com
Sat May 5 13:49:18 EDT 2018


Dear list,
>From the point of view of an attendee, I find weddings quite enjoyable, though I get disheartened when it gets into a slightly over the top visual mood such as the already mentioned shooting photo after photo as well as the colours involved in the décor. I have had loads of dancing practice experiences, and particularly partake in dancing at weddings with close ones present as partners.
As I get older, probably, and my responsibilities increase, I will possibly realize the context in which these tasks are considered daunting according to this discussion.
Thank you all for sharing your inputs in this discussion. I have been mostly inactive on this list as I find many of the issues talked about not relevant to me (especially my age and consequential life situation) but on the other hand understanding is a key element of teamwork, and I try to the best of my abilities to recognize the scale and impact of the discussed topics. I think I’m having a fresh start after this matter.
On a new subject, I would like to enquire about the latest firmware version of EVO E5. I had been using it for some time but discarded it as I felt the version I was using was outdated. Does the version depend on the model (Monolingually English, bilingually English and Hindi, or the Multilingual Model)  of the gadget? I am using the Monolingual Model, which is using a version starting with “1” and released on 14 May 2015. If this is not the latest firmware and the version does not depend on the model, is there a way to upgrade it?
Would like to know your valuable opinions.
Best regards,
Arijeet Patil.
Ninth Grade highschool student, Mumbai.

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From: Rahul Bajaj
Sent: 04 May 2018 10:36
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Effectively organizing religious ceremonies andparticipating in them

Thanks, Rajesh sir and Kriti. Rajesh sir, thanks for that elaboration. I also think that, in recent years, a lot of things have gotten transferred from box 2 to 3 and some from box 3 to 4. That said, there are a fair number of things that still remain in box 1, which are really irreversible, and some in box 2 which can be transferred to box 3 or 4 with appropriate interventions and ability.

Kriti, thanks for those points. I did participate in many of the things you mentioned, such as deciding the textual content of cards and finalizing the food menu. But during the course of the actual wedding, one has to take the back seat which can be disheartening. This also gets widely noticed by all and sundry, and people are quick to pass judgment. If one is an introvert on top of having a disability, things become even harder.

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> On May 3, 2018, at 1:05 PM, Kriti Banga <bangakriti at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> 
> 
> Greetings for the day!
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you so much Rahul for taking up this topic, since no one has openly
> spoken about it till now.
> 
> 
> 
> Well in India, unfortunately most of the religious ceremonies requires
> sight. Be it the marriage of your closest friend/family member, or or be it
> arranging for any pooja.
> 
> 
> 
> Tasks like supervising the decoration, the caterer, managing gifts to be
> given, and of course keeping an eye on everything in general in functions
> with a loud or rather very loud music definitely requires someone with
> sight. In fact, it also becomes difficult at times to understand what’s
> happening at the moment because no one is free to explain you the visual
> clues.
> 
> Let’s take an example of a marriage, since the topic is going on about it,  The
> possible way one can participate in various activities:
> 
> 
> 
> Invitation Card:
> 
> Contribute by giving ideas for making the invitation cards, The content of
> the card, the design of the card, helping in preparing the list of the
> guests, preparing the rute for card distribution, and managing the guest
> list according to your relations with them.
> 
> 
> 
> Venues:
> 
> Helping everyone with finding out venues for various functions, talking to
> concerned people, negotiating with them for the expenses, and finally
> finalising the venues.
> 
> 
> 
> Food:
> 
> That’s the area one can definitely work on!
> 
> 
> 
> Pre-Marriage preparations:
> 
> Helping everyone packing the gifts, deciding on the sweets to be given and
> to be kept of course, preparing the list for the main functions, the items
> you will need during the marriage, etc.
> 
> 
> 
> Finally, keeping it all together, the item list, the guest list, and your
> accounts.
> 
> 
> 
> Finally I will just say that you can work for all the behind the scenes,
> and during the marriage, let the sighted people do the running around!
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, there is yet no solution for the feeling of inadequacy, but at least
> some of the work can be done by us.
> 
> 
> 
> Or else, just become a groom, and take as much time with the priest as much
> you feel like to understand and do things! 😊
> 
> 
> 
> As far as enjoying the functions is concerned, then you can participate in
> anchouring for the functions.
> 
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Kriti Banga
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 12:15 PM, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasudani at rbi.org.in>
> wrote:
> 
>> You are right, Rahul.
>> People tend to focus on the last two, for obvious reasons of maintaining
>> self-confidence, and we can hardly blame them.
>> 
>> However, realistically, I classify the impact of disability into four
>> categories, of course they are dynamic.
>> 
>> I may illustrate taking example of congenital total blindness as I have
>> the firsthand experience, but it would apply mutatis mutandis to other
>> severe or total disabilities as well:
>> 
>> 1. Modified consciousness: of course, this impact is with disability by
>> birth or since early childhood. Even in dreams, one does not experience
>> seeing. I never dream of driving a bike or seeing beauty of girls as I have
>> never experienced it in waking. Same applies to witnessing handwriting,
>> wonderful photographs/paintings
>> This modification in consciousness results in not experiencing many visual
>> activities even in thought/imagination.
>> 2. Others one has to give up in actual deeds, for instance,
>> driving/drawing. Many more become practically impossible. One cannot be a
>> dentist, surgeon driver, etc.
>> At present, only 10% of government post are identified for blind, I am
>> told.
>> We can readily come up with instances where we have to practically give up
>> on many actions, only we don't want to think so.
>> 
>> 3. Some can be managed with work arounds. Use of assistive technology or
>> human aid come in handy. Being a Lawyer, administrator, teacher, I would
>> classify in this.
>> 4. Rest one may do with remaining senses.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
>> Sent: 02 May 2018 21:32
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Effectively organizing religious ceremonies and
>> participating in them
>> 
>> Rajesh sir, I think that is a great classification. Would love to hear
>> some examples of each of those categories from you.
>> 
>> I think a lot of responses here focus on the last 2. However, the mere
>> fact that we're able to participate in these doesn't take away the fact
>> that one is not able to participate in the first two.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasudani at rbi.org.in>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It does.
>>> In fact, Religion itself is posited on giving rise to feelings of
>> inadequacy in humans!
>>> Smile.
>>> 
>>> Blindness, or any severe or total disability is a supervening factor
>> drastically affecting  the life activities.
>>> One has to give up certain activities altogether, even in thought and
>> consciousness, others abandone in actual deeds, others may be managed with
>> workarounds, others done well enough with remaining senses.
>>> 
>>> I would roughly put the percentage of all four categories at 25% each.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
>>> Sent: 30 April 2018 23:48
>>> To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
>>> Subject: [AI] Effectively organizing religious ceremonies and
>>> participating in them
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> I hope this message finds you well. I rewas recently involved in my
>> sibling's wedding which got me thinking about the accessibility of
>> religious ceremonies and customs for the blind. While I made it clear
>> before the event that I wanted to fully perform all the rites that were
>> expected of me and abided by that commitment, I also realized, in a
>> powerful way, how such events are fundamentally so visually driven and how
>> the lack of sight can be a key impediment in so many ways.
>>> 
>>> From supervising decorations to effectively mingling with guests; from
>> performing the actions that various pujas encompass to relentlessly
>> clicking and sharing photos; from ensuring that everyone is eating
>> adequately to engaging in dance practice and the actual dance; from dealing
>> with loud music that takes away your hearing ability to doing the running
>> around that's often required and  convincing yourself that you can
>> contribute meaningfully despite these limitations. On top of all this,
>> these events are very anxiety-inducing for all organizers and involve a lot
>> of running around, so it is unrealistic to expect people to make reasonable
>> accommodations for you to make some of this accessible. I am not saying
>> that there aren't workarounds and ways and means in which one can
>> contribute; all I am saying is that, despite one's best efforts, one is
>> unable to do more than 30-40% of what sighted people in the same position
>> are able to do.
>>> 
>>> I am wondering how others feel about this and if this gives rise to a
>> feeling of inadequacy for a lot of people .
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Rahul
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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