[AI] Sensory substitution in blind?

bhawani shankar verma bsvermadurg at gmail.com
Fri Nov 30 03:06:59 EST 2018


using power of brain upto its maximum power is a good idea. the subject line 
of original mail should be changed accordingly. Swami vivekanand can 
memorise the entire book once he read it. everybody can not become 
vivekanand. many of children have passed many higher exams in the age of 
10-15. we can not claim all can do.
same should be here. visually impaired can see.
in my opinion if a completely blind join to see again, is a wastage of time. 
Brain exercise is another matter.
now this thread has been turned to convincing mode instead of claiming 
scientific evidence.


-----Original Message----- 
From: Kriya Jain
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 11:25 AM
To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind?

Why not someone just tries it? anyways it's free. Having some mind
exercises and reiki won't harm anyone if not any good, right?

Regards,
Kanchan


On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 10:28 AM Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasudani at rbi.org.in>
wrote:

> Yes, it is, and so I have changed it.
>
> As I have said earlier, it appears that information is conveyed via touch
> and other senses, information which appears primarily to be visual.
>
> I have heard of it in children below 15, and they were not willing to try
> it for me, i.e. totally blind person a little upwards of forty.
>
> Now, if somebody has tried for blind children and is willing to try it out
> in blind adults, let us not scoff at the attempts.
> Yes, exaggerated claims like blind can see and associating prominent
> scientists unnecessarily should be avoided.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of George Abraham
> Sent: 30 November 2018 08:50
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning the disabled.' <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired can see now!
>
> Is there a problem with the subject line. Is it a little misleading?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of shobhan singh
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 12:46 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired can see now!
>
> Dear list members,
> First of all, I would like to make clear that I am dr. Shobhan Singh
> working as an Assistant Professor at Zakir Husain Delhi College in
> university of Delhi and I am also a visually impaired. I have not 
> mentioned
> or claimed in any of my mail that I have specialization in Science of Mind
> or therapy which would be use to cure blindness during this 7 days’ camp. 
> I
> am just an organizer and participant of the camp.
> Mr. Jitendra an IIT passed out and has worked as software Engeneer in
> Japan for 10 years belongs to Haryana State, is specialised in Science of
> Mind from Japan. Jitendra resigned from his job and after returning from
> Japan to India, he began his social service based on his own observations
> and inferences from Science of Mind and decided to cure blindness.
> As far as technique of the treatment is concern, it involves 4 steps:
> 1. Breathing excercises,
> 2. Pranic heeling,
> 3. Reki therapy and
> 4. Few certain brain exercises.
> Persons with visual impairment of any type and age group can be cured with
> these techniques however, it effectively and quickly works on below 40
> years old people.
> But it does not mean or claim that these techniques would change one’s
> physical and medical conditions, it would just active sense of sight or
> seeing or to say its mid-brain activation.
> As far as medical certificate is concern, is not essential.Sent from my
> Iphone
>
> > On 29-Nov-2018, at 8:48 PM, bhawani shankar verma 
> > <bsvermadurg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I still can not understand that why this discussion is going in this
> group.
> > it means that it is too easy to make foolish inteligent people.
> >
> > On Thu, 29 Nov 2018, 7:57 p.m. Austin Pinto
> > <austinpinto.xaviers at gmail.com
> > wrote:
> >
> >> as shobhan singh says he will clear our doubts when free i have some
> >> questions which will be helpful for us.
> >> 1. if you carefully see the video the children are asked to touch
> >> shapes drawn on paper and find out size, color etc.
> >> why is this are the shapes drawn using some type of tactile or
> something?
> >> how can some1 find out color of shapes by touch.
> >> 2. who can benefit from this camp.
> >> can people with optic nerve damage attend?
> >> what are the age groups that can attend cause in this video we only
> >> see small children.
> >> please clarify.
> >>
> >>> On 11/29/18, sazid shaik <ashwaqahmed.nlr at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> intresting,
> >>>
> >>>> On 11/29/18, shobhan singh <shobhan19jnu at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> As soon as I will be free by this evening I will try to Clare all
> >>>> the doubts and confusions.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my Iphone
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 29-Nov-2018, at 1:47 PM, Ved <vedprakash.sharma at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why videos. Give your address and I am coming to attend the camp
> >>>>> in
> >> order
> >>>>> to see myself.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in]
> >>>>> On Behalf Of shobhan singh
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:25 PM
> >>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> >>>>> concerning the disabled. <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired can see now!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes all of them are able to see. Soon I will send videos by this
> >> evening
> >>>>> of those people.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my Iphone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 28-Nov-2018, at 12:14 PM, bhawani shankar verma
> >>>>>> <bsvermadurg at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> are they able to see now? those 400 blind children?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: shobhan singh
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:11 PM
> >>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> >>>>>> concerning the disabled.
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired can see now!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'll send you the videos of the sessions conducted in Haryana,
> >>>>>> Ludhiyana and Calcutta Blind schools where about 400 children and
> >>>>>> adults have been treated successfully. It is completely based on
> >>>>>> certain brain exercises without any medication.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 11/28/18, shankar.c at tech-accessibility.in
> >>>>>> <shankar.c at tech-accessibility.in> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi there,
> >>>>>>> As for as my concern, no 1 is debating on the subject, I feel
> >>>>>>> that, the viewers need the logic on the training.
> >>>>>>> So, if you could share the more details on the training or the
> >>>>>>> subject like, how it works and so on, people might get convince
> >>>>>>> and attend the training more and more.
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>> From: AccessIndia <accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in> On
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> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 11:23 AM
> >>>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> >>>>>>> concerning the disabled. <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired can see now!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi there,
> >>>>>>> Its not matter of debate! Its matter of larger interest of the
> >>>>>>> persons with visual impairment. Its an individual effort to
> >>>>>>> conduct the session in different parts of India and abroad. No
> >>>>>>> one is forced
> >> to
> >>>>>>> join the training.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sent from my Iphone
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 28-Nov-2018, at 11:04 AM, manohar vaswani
> >>>>>>>> <vaswanims at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> if visually impaired can see, then they will not be visually
> >> impaired!
> >>>>>>>> and as far as I know, Einstein was not a neurologist
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 11/27/18, Maruti Paramwad <mparamwad at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> How???? How can its possible? Without using any technology?
> >>>>>>>>> Are you doing any magic?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 27-Nov-2018, at 7:18 PM, shobhan singh
> >>>>>>>>>> <shobhan19jnu at gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Dear friends,
> >>>>>>>>>> Each visually impaired can see and complete his/her tasks
> >>>>>>>>>> without any technological interventions after completing 7
> >>>>>>>>>> days’ training at camp.
> >>>>>>>>>> After the completion: one can read and write, walk
> >>>>>>>>>> independently, colour recognition will improve.
> >>>>>>>>>> Interested persons with visual impairment may contact to
> >>>>>>>>>> participate in this 7 days’  training Camp before December,
> >>>>>>>>>> 2nd
> >> 2018
> >>>>>>>>>> on: 9205803706.
> >>>>>>>>>> It is free of cost for all!
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
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