[AI] behaviour of my superior

Sathiyaprakash Ramdoss sathiya.ramdoss at gmail.com
Tue Sep 28 01:31:08 EDT 2010


 In addition to Steve Hawkins, are we also taking Helen Keller not in
to consideration?

On 9/27/10, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasudani at rbi.org.in> wrote:
> Stefen Hawkins better pass his days confined  in his home, no?
> Why waste time for a cripple and a dumb?
>
> Remember, mahesh is not asking for any special guide.\
> Only his team members have to escort him a bit.
> Stringent laws are the need of the hour.
> no education or counseling does any good.
> Coercion is many a times sole basis for morality.
> That's why whole gamut of godliy heaven and hell  and that's why whole
> gammut of rule of law.
> As my psychology teacher remarked once in exasperation at my repeated query
> about potential of cognitive behavioural approach in changing response to
> disability:
> "Mr. Asudani, chastize them with direct verbal onslaught, and the whole
> attitude would change".
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of namdeo2000
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:43 PM
> To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior
>
> According to you, helping somebody is a waste of time? Suppose there is a
> poor man who has a very good ability of doing business. To start with, he
> needs only RS 100 which he doesn't have. Now as far as you or people like
> you, will not concede him that  amount because your logic is, why should you
> waste your hard-earned money on him.
> This gentleman from Pune, only needs somebody to guide him to move around.In
> the conference he can exhibit his technical expertise thereby making the
> name of his company.
>  But he can not do this, as long as there are people like his boss and
> people like you, who think that if he is not independent in moving about,
> his being a expert technician is useless. Mahesh is only blind but, suppose,
> there is some scientist of a very high stature, but he has lost his both
> legs. As per your view, he must never be allowed to attend any seminars or
> conferences because he would need somebody to push his wheelchair around.
> Why should you waste your precious time for him? --- Original Message -----
> From: "Srinivasu Chakravarthula" <srinivasu at srinivasu.org>
> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>; "Geetha Shamanna"
> <geetha at millernorbert.de>
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 7:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior
>
>
>> Why is not a problem, if someone do not have mobility skills? Yes,
>> saying is easy that someone can holh his hand, why should someone has
>> to invest time to hold him all the time? While we talk about equal
>> opportunities, when there is possibility, why not we should have
>> skills of independence?
>>
>> On 9/26/10, namdeo2000 <jadhav.namdeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I don't understand what you are talking. If he is not good at his
>>> mobility
>>> so what? Only because somebody will have to hold his hand  and guide him,
>>> he
>>> should be deprived of this opportunity? Being not able to move about
>>> independently and to be an expert technocrat have no connection
>>> whatsoever.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Geetha Shamanna" geetha at millernorbert.
>>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Mahesh,
>>>>
>>>> Please do not get me wrong for asking you these questions, but how
>>>> independent are you? Do you travel to work and move around within the
>>>> office
>>>> on your own? Do you use a white cane? Do you travel independently
>>>> outside
>>>> Pune on your own, be it for official or private purposes?
>>>>
>>>> The impression colleagues at work have of us blind people is to a large
>>>> extent dependent on the way we conduct ourselves. If a blind person
>>>> requires
>>>> assistance to move around within the office or to commute to work,
>>>> colleagues will always assume that blind people are dependent. It is not
>>>> their fault entirely; that blind person in their office might be the
>>>> only
>>>> blind person they have come across in their whole existence.
>>>>
>>>> Instead of going to the press and publicising this issue, what is
>>>> probably
>>>> required here is for you to have a long and candid talk with your
>>>> superior
>>>> and try and convince him that you are capable of looking after yourself
>>>> during the US trip, and that you will not be excessively dependent on
>>>> the
>>>> colleagues traveling with you. You can also ask him to specifically list
>>>> out
>>>> his reservations; you can then  address them individually. If you have
>>>> traveled alone previously, tell him how you did so and how independently
>>>> you
>>>> dealt with the situation. It won't be easy, but each of us will have to
>>>> fight this battle on our own.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, if he is not sufficiently convinced and does not agree to send
>>>> you
>>>> to the conference, do not give up. Whenever opportunities to travel to
>>>> local
>>>> conferences or other events within Pune or other parts of India arise,
>>>> be
>>>> the first one to apply. He may not be averse to sending you to local
>>>> events;
>>>> so make full use of it and try to be as independent as possible during
>>>> these
>>>> events. You will then notice how your superior's impression of you
>>>> changes.
>>>>
>>>> Geetha
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mahesh Shah" <mss447 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "accessindia" <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 5:45 AM
>>>> Subject: [AI] behaviour of my superior
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Friends--
>>>>
>>>> I am writing to this list after a long time. I wish to tell you an
>>>> incident happened in my office , which shocked me.
>>>>
>>>> Every year, a delegation goes from my office, C-DAC, to participate in
>>>> SuperComputing conference in USA. This year I put my self-nomination
>>>> for this. I am the most qualified and most senior person for the job.
>>>>
>>>> But my boss called me for a one-to-one discussion and informed me that
>>>> it will be 'embarrasing' to send a person (VI) like me in . the
>>>> delegation. Because I will require someone's support and will hold
>>>> someone's hand. Also if some accident happens to me because of my
>>>> disability, he and office will be hold responsible for why they sent
>>>> such a person.
>>>>
>>>> I was really shocked and upset with the behaviour. Then I withdrew my
>>>> nomination for participation in the conference.
>>>>
>>>> Friends, I want to show you that how these learned so-called superiors
>>>> fail to understand the VI peoples aspirations and behave in such a
>>>> nonsense way.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for sharing my concerns.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mahesh Shah
>>>> Pune
>>>>
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>> --
>> Sent from my mobile device
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula
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