[AI] behaviour of my superior

namdeo2000 jadhav.namdeo at gmail.com
Mon Sep 27 13:40:30 EDT 2010


I can't understand, why are you expecting everything from everybody. You can 
be a very good orator which I may not be; but I can be an icon in music of 
which you may know nothing.
So knowledge of both in their respective fields can not be ignored or 
undermined.  ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vamshi. G" <gvamshiai at gmail.com>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior


> hi rajesh sir,
>
> mobile partially sighted people, when blindfolded, may not meet your
> challemge.  but i'm sure there are many totally blind people on this
> very list who have the confidence and skills to do that.  i am talking
> about those general independent skills.  and i agree with you on the
> point that a white cane or guide dog can't make a blind person move
> without any risk or inconvenience in a new environment.
>
> Let me say that whatever i've said is in general and not in particular
> to mr. Mahesh.
>
> On 9/27/10, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasudani at rbi.org.in> wrote:
>> I believe aisha, Vamshi  and others who are championing independent
>> mobility in all circumstances particularly in the new surroundings, are
>> partially sighted and not totally blind.
>>
>> While it is good to have mobility skills, I am afraid they would not 
>> enable
>> a totally blind person to navigate all alone in all surroundings without
>> undue risk.
>>
>> I challenge mobile partially sighted to blindfold themselves and come to
>> Nagpur for BGFI convention in nagpur on october 2nd, and 3rd, reach the
>> venue and we shall have a fruitful discussion on all issues.....
>>
>> Rajesh
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of aisha sahani
>> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 8:27 AM
>> To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior
>>
>> I can sympathise with this gentalman, but I guess, his  boss was not
>> wrong either.
>>
>> if you say that you are equally competent to go there, why is this all 
>> fuss?
>>
>> You have learned  to work  on computer with assistive technology
>> because it was not possible for you to do it in general way.
>>
>> Do you think someone would have given you the job if you have asked
>> them to provide a human operator to read your screen instead of you
>> using the assistive technology?
>>
>> Similarly, you should have acquired the independent mobility skills in
>> order to go there.
>> Even i would have not sent you if I were the boss.
>>
>> I know, it was tuff luck, but  you can always count me in amongst your
>> well wishers.
>>
>> Aisha sahani.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/27/10, Vamshi G <gvamshiai at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yes, I agree with Vasu and Geetha.  Being dependent is not a sin or 
>>> crime,
>>> but being independent is definitely an essential requirement when one 
>>> goes
>>> to a  new environment.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Vamshi G
>>> M: +91 9949349497
>>> R: +91 877 2243861
>>> Skype: gvamshi81
>>>
>>> www.retinaindia.org
>>> From darkness unto light
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
>>> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srinivasu
>>> Chakravarthula
>>> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 7:36 AM
>>> To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in; Geetha Shamanna
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior
>>>
>>> Why is not a problem, if someone do not have mobility skills? Yes,
>>> saying is easy that someone can holh his hand, why should someone has
>>> to invest time to hold him all the time? While we talk about equal
>>> opportunities, when there is possibility, why not we should have
>>> skills of independence?
>>>
>>> On 9/26/10, namdeo2000 <jadhav.namdeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I don't understand what you are talking. If he is not good at his
>>>> mobility
>>>> so what? Only because somebody will have to hold his hand  and guide 
>>>> him,
>>> he
>>>> should be deprived of this opportunity? Being not able to move about
>>>> independently and to be an expert technocrat have no connection
>>> whatsoever.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Geetha Shamanna" geetha at millernorbert.
>>>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:35 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mahesh,
>>>>>
>>>>> Please do not get me wrong for asking you these questions, but how
>>>>> independent are you? Do you travel to work and move around within the
>>>>> office
>>>>> on your own? Do you use a white cane? Do you travel independently
>>>>> outside
>>>>> Pune on your own, be it for official or private purposes?
>>>>>
>>>>> The impression colleagues at work have of us blind people is to a 
>>>>> large
>>>>> extent dependent on the way we conduct ourselves. If a blind person
>>>>> requires
>>>>> assistance to move around within the office or to commute to work,
>>>>> colleagues will always assume that blind people are dependent. It is 
>>>>> not
>>>>> their fault entirely; that blind person in their office might be the
>>>>> only
>>>>> blind person they have come across in their whole existence.
>>>>>
>>>>> Instead of going to the press and publicising this issue, what is
>>> probably
>>>>> required here is for you to have a long and candid talk with your
>>> superior
>>>>> and try and convince him that you are capable of looking after 
>>>>> yourself
>>>>> during the US trip, and that you will not be excessively dependent on
>>>>> the
>>>>> colleagues traveling with you. You can also ask him to specifically 
>>>>> list
>>>>> out
>>>>> his reservations; you can then  address them individually. If you have
>>>>> traveled alone previously, tell him how you did so and how 
>>>>> independently
>>>>> you
>>>>> dealt with the situation. It won't be easy, but each of us will have 
>>>>> to
>>>>> fight this battle on our own.
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, if he is not sufficiently convinced and does not agree to 
>>>>> send
>>>>> you
>>>>> to the conference, do not give up. Whenever opportunities to travel to
>>>>> local
>>>>> conferences or other events within Pune or other parts of India arise,
>>>>> be
>>>>> the first one to apply. He may not be averse to sending you to local
>>>>> events;
>>>>> so make full use of it and try to be as independent as possible during
>>>>> these
>>>>> events. You will then notice how your superior's impression of you
>>>>> changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Geetha
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Mahesh Shah" <mss447 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "accessindia" <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 5:45 AM
>>>>> Subject: [AI] behaviour of my superior
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Friends--
>>>>>
>>>>> I am writing to this list after a long time. I wish to tell you an
>>>>> incident happened in my office , which shocked me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Every year, a delegation goes from my office, C-DAC, to participate in
>>>>> SuperComputing conference in USA. This year I put my self-nomination
>>>>> for this. I am the most qualified and most senior person for the job.
>>>>>
>>>>> But my boss called me for a one-to-one discussion and informed me that
>>>>> it will be 'embarrasing' to send a person (VI) like me in . the
>>>>> delegation. Because I will require someone's support and will hold
>>>>> someone's hand. Also if some accident happens to me because of my
>>>>> disability, he and office will be hold responsible for why they sent
>>>>> such a person.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was really shocked and upset with the behaviour. Then I withdrew my
>>>>> nomination for participation in the conference.
>>>>>
>>>>> Friends, I want to show you that how these learned so-called superiors
>>>>> fail to understand the VI peoples aspirations and behave in such a
>>>>> nonsense way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for sharing my concerns.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mahesh Shah
>>>>> Pune
>>>>>
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>>> --
>>> Sent from my mobile device
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula
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