[AI] (no subject)

Sanjay ilovecold at gmail.com
Sat Sep 11 02:22:58 EDT 2010

In some countries, blind people are giving their exams in Braille.  I wonder 
why this is not  posible in India.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kotian, H P" <hpkotian at rbi.org.in>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:49 AM
Subject: [AI] (no subject)

> Dear Rajesh
> Well, I beg to differ, just because a paper is written in Braille, it is 
> expected the paper would be evaluated by VI or it is expected the 
> evaluator is expected to learn Braille. Braille is certainly an option and 
> the importance of Braille should not be undermined.
> How to deal with Braille paper is an operational issue to be dealt with 
> the authority. Certainly the practical way out is to get it transcribed by 
> a person knowing Braille. Sighted or blind.
> I would go further to state we should write in Braille to authorities to 
> ensure the importance of Braille as a medium.
> I am unsure if a Braille document can be considered as a legal document 
> although I reckon there should be no bar in it.It should be interesting to 
> know the legal status of Braille.
> Audio Recording is good, However, it would make the candidate and the 
> scribe very conscious. Let us  not make a blind person treated like a 
> criminal.If the scribe does not read well it will still not make the 
> things better as no extra marks would be given for the wrong answer. If 
> for any reason the authorities could not arrange for recording or if the 
> recording did not come through will, some hypper intelligent babu would 
> penalise a blind person for it. You never know.
> Harish Kotian.
> From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasudani at rbi.org.in>
> To: "accessindia at accessindia.org.in" <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations
> Well, braillers, what about evaluation?
> Do you want papers of VI to be valued by VI only, or would you insist 
> valuers to learn Braille?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in 
> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amit Bhatt
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 10:12 PM
> To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations
> Well I too would not deny the fact that there is no better option than 
> writing the exams on our own using the Assistive Technology or Computer. 
> But if we want to use it just because some of the candidates are taking 
> the help from their Writers, then use of Computer also seems to be futile 
> and helpless to stop the cheating in the examination since Computer will 
> be very useful to correct the spelling mistakes specially for those who 
> are not that good in English spellings while writing a subjective Paper.
> I think currently the main theme of our on going discussion is "Criteria 
> and eligibility of Scribe," not about the Candidate whether he or she is 
> honestly answering the papers or not. so better if we do not deviate from 
> the original topic and do not discuss about cheating and copying in the 
> exam. Otherwise this will be a endless debate and our motive of preparing 
> the correct guidelines on Scribe eligibility will not be fulfilled, 
> however, the problem of cheating will be remained there unless the 
> Invigilator is very active. I would again say that how can you stop the 
> sighted applicants who copy in the exam? So what my purpose is to say that 
> doing swindle during the examinations is not our problem but the problem 
> lies on the part of Invigilator and related authority who conduct the 
> examination.
> As far as taking the Exams through Braille is concerned, the idea is good 
> but then I would again say the time needs to be extended for writing the 
> exams since practically writing Braille takes more energy as compare to 
> use the pen and Braille cannot be faster than the print in writing in case 
> of use of simple Braille-Slate. Yes, brailor can indeed be a very useful 
> tool to overcome with the problem of speed but, now question is raised 
> about how to arrange the Brailor, who would afford for those who cannot 
> buy it and there are many such problems involved in the use of Brail 
> script during the examination. So better if we continue with the use of 
> Scribe.
> Regards,
> Amit Bhatt
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