[AI] (no subject)

KARAN GUPTA karanzg at gmail.com
Thu Sep 9 04:13:17 EDT 2010


I second Harish, I assume that very gadget is not cent percent accurate.

Kindest Regards
- Karan Gupta

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-----Original Message-----
From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Sent:  09.09.2010, 1:33  PM
To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] (no subject)


I forgot the name, but I think there is a gadget which scans converts
Braille to print. If that is true, for large scale exams, Govt should
buy such a device and send all braille papers to that centralized
location of the state for eveluation. It would be reasonable to ask
Govt to procure the same at every eveluation centre.

On 9/9/10, Kotian, H P <hpkotian at rbi.org.in> wrote:
> Dear Rajesh
>
> Well, I beg to differ, just because a paper is written in Braille, it is
> expected the paper would be evaluated by VI or it is expected the evaluator
> is expected to learn Braille. Braille is certainly an option and the
> importance of Braille should not be undermined.
>
> How to deal with Braille paper is an operational issue to be dealt with the
> authority. Certainly the practical way out is to get it transcribed by a
> person knowing Braille. Sighted or blind.
>
> I would go further to state we should write in Braille to authorities to
> ensure the importance of Braille as a medium.
>
> I am unsure if a Braille document can be considered as a legal document
> although I reckon there should be no bar in it.It should be interesting to
> know the legal status of Braille.
>
> Audio Recording is good, However, it would make the candidate and the scribe
> very conscious. Let us  not make a blind person treated like a criminal.If
> the scribe does not read well it will still not make the things better as no
> extra marks would be given for the wrong answer. If for any reason the
> authorities could not arrange for recording or if the recording did not come
> through will, some hypper intelligent babu would penalise a blind person for
> it. You never know.
>
>
> Harish Kotian.
>
> From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasudani at rbi.org.in>
> To: "accessindia at accessindia.org.in" <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations
>
> Well, braillers, what about evaluation?
> Do you want papers of VI to be valued by VI only, or would you insist
> valuers to learn Braille?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amit Bhatt
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 10:12 PM
> To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations
>
> Well I too would not deny the fact that there is no better option than
> writing the exams on our own using the Assistive Technology or Computer. But
> if we want to use it just because some of the candidates are taking the help
> from their Writers, then use of Computer also seems to be futile and
> helpless to stop the cheating in the examination since Computer will be very
> useful to correct the spelling mistakes specially for those who are not that
> good in English spellings while writing a subjective Paper.
> I think currently the main theme of our on going discussion is "Criteria and
> eligibility of Scribe," not about the Candidate whether he or she is
> honestly answering the papers or not. so better if we do not deviate from
> the original topic and do not discuss about cheating and copying in the
> exam. Otherwise this will be a endless debate and our motive of preparing
> the correct guidelines on Scribe eligibility will not be fulfilled, however,
> the problem of cheating will be remained there unless the Invigilator is
> very active. I would again say that how can you stop the sighted applicants
> who copy in the exam? So what my purpose is to say that doing swindle during
> the examinations is not our problem but the problem lies on the part of
> Invigilator and related authority who conduct the examination.
> As far as taking the Exams through Braille is concerned, the idea is good
> but then I would again say the time needs to be extended for writing the
> exams since practically writing Braille takes more energy as compare to use
> the pen and Braille cannot be faster than the print in writing in case of
> use of simple Braille-Slate. Yes, brailor can indeed be a very useful tool
> to overcome with the problem of speed but, now question is raised about how
> to arrange the Brailor, who would afford for those who cannot buy it and
> there are many such problems involved in the use of Brail script during the
> examination. So better if we continue with the use of Scribe.
>
> Regards,
>
> Amit Bhatt
>
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