[AI] Is it time for persons with disability to enter politics?

dinesh shukla dineshshukla2815 at gmail.com
Thu Jul 8 11:46:29 EDT 2010


This is very true that politicians are very powerful. I heard I may be wrong 
but I heard that Jaipal reddy is also handicapped but he never said anything 
about handicapped persons. DK Shukla
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "akhilesh" <akhil.akhil29 at gmail.com>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Is it time for persons with disability to enter politics?


> This has to be very very clear that we need representation in indian
> parliament not by only election, but also by nomination.
> People are nominated from different walks of life in rajya sabha, so
> why not from our community as well!!!
> Let's do something about it together.
>
>
> On 7/7/10, Kanchan Pamnani <kanchanpamnani at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thank you for your vote of confidence. I am not interested and will never
>> be. after my recent interactions with Parliamentarians in and out of
>> Parliament I am definitely not interested. I have however enjoyed your
>> discussions and have read all the mails on the subject. Whoever decides 
>> to
>> stand must start working now. I promise to stop my work for those last15
>> days and come and campaign. I wish I had done it when Javed was standing 
>> in
>> 2004.
>>
>> However there is one thing I would like to say there are people on this
>> group who can make a difference by campaigning, lobbying and airing their
>> views on subjects but who only do so in our forum.
>> I know that I was not trained in advocacy. I just found something that 
>> was
>> hurting others and started. Recently I have been asking for help on this
>> group but except for praise I do not get the active help that such causes
>> need. More about this in another email.
>> In my Rotaract year as District Governor my theme was "its you who 
>> matters".
>> I still feel that every one on this group makes a difference whether we 
>> are
>> in Parliament or not.
>> If someone really does want to stand then we will have to support and
>> support actively in whatever way we can.
>> Onward March to Parliament
>>
>> Kanchan
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Subramani L" <lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in>
>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 5:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Is it time for persons with disability to enter 
>> politics?
>>
>>
>>> This sounds like a good idea. I feel those who have done activism fro a
>>> long time must be fielded as candidates --folks like George, Kanchan
>>> (though she has been refusing I feel she is a wonderful role model and a
>>> candidate to represent us in the parliament). Unfortunately, folks like
>>> Harish and Rajesh are in RBI otherwise I feel they too make a good
>>> candidates. Probably, if you all are interested, we will draw up a list
>>> and then ask the people if they are willing to contest. Like in the US,
>>> we can open websites to solicit public donation for the candidate to
>>> successfully contest the election. The other alternative  is to seek
>>> tickets from the parties.
>>>
>>> Subramani
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
>>> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of akhilesh
>>> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 5:00 PM
>>> To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Is it time for persons with disability to enter
>>> politics?
>>>
>>> Subramani sir,
>>> We have been  vested with the right to fight the elections and there
>>> seems no doubt about it.
>>> Lets come and fight the election from the next general elections. We
>>> should make sure that the numbers of visually challenged candidates
>>> must not be less than 543 means; each constituency will have at least
>>> one visually challenged candidate.
>>> As far as nomination like Anglo Indians is concern, it has to be
>>> mandatory for the GVT.  To make such laws which can give the
>>> representation to PWD community in parliament.
>>>
>>> On 7/4/10, harish <harish at accessindia.org.in> wrote:
>>>> Hello
>>>>
>>>> I think, one should have a long term strategy. One should start from
>>> the
>>>> grass root and this way your credibility would be established and you
>>> would
>>>> also build up a team of committed persons around you.
>>>>
>>>> I am glad we have Sudha Patel amidst us who is doing just that.
>>>>
>>>> Harish Kotian.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Subramani L" <lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in>
>>>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 5:20 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Is it time for persons with disability to enter
>>> politics?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Don't you think it is rather bettr for us to fight the elections and
>>>>> come through the straight way?
>>>>>
>>>>> Subramani
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
>>>>> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of akhilesh
>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 1:14 PM
>>>>> To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Is it time for persons with disability to enter
>>>>> politics?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it would be wrong to say that Jamuna prasad shastri has not
>>>>> fought and not spoken about the rights of the disables.
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably you don't know, but he has started the blind school at the
>>>>> most backward region of the madhya Pradesh, and the same school is
>>>>> still flourishing and imparting the education for so many blinds in
>>>>> state of MP.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've got the opportunity to listen his speech, and I have done most
>>> of
>>>>> my schooling from his school.
>>>>> He passed away in 1997.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as election is concern, I think we should start fighting from
>>>>> our constituency's right from the next elections.
>>>>> Except this, we should also demand the seats in lok sabha as well. If
>>>>> the Anglo Indian community is getting the representation in lok sabha
>>>>> through nomination, why not our community as well?
>>>>> Prepare the representation in this regard; I'm taking the
>>>>> responsibility of signature campaign in Delhi.
>>>>> Ask for the nomination, only and only then we'll be able to influence
>>>>> the policies which are made for us and influence us.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Akhilesh.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/1/10, Subramani L <lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in> wrote:
>>>>>> I agree no less. My contention is: if you have  disability and have
>>> a
>>>>>> problem accepting it (especially if you are a politician) you
>>> distance
>>>>>> yourself from assisting the govt to be effective in implementing
>>>>>> disability policies. Of course, being a politician has its own
>>>>>> responsibilities which one can't afford to overlook, disabled or
>>> not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
>>>>>> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George
>>>>>> Abraham
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 8:06 AM
>>>>>> To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Is it time for persons with disability to enter
>>>>>> politics?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But Subramani,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A person with disabilitty who steps into politics and hopes to be
>>>>>> elected
>>>>>> will need to think beyond his or her disability.   He needs to be
>>>>>> relevant
>>>>>> to all in the community. He or she will need to understand the
>>> issues
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> the community faces. He or she will  need to champion the cause of
>>> the
>>>>>> community, only then would votes come by.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Likewise, for us to be included or be a real part of the families,
>>>>>> communities we live in, we need to also start thinking
>>>>> family/community
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> not just be thinking disability.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we  start doing what we can do for our community, then the
>>>>> community
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> open its arms to embrace us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we need to succeed in politics,  we need to think community and
>>> not
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> disability.  Having said all this, when we get elected or get into a
>>>>>> position of influence, we mustn't forget the issues pertaining to
>>>>>> disability.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> George
>>>>>> George Abraham
>>>>>> CEO
>>>>>> Score Foundation
>>>>>> 17/107, Basement,
>>>>>> Vikram Vihar, Lajpatnagar 4,
>>>>>> New Delhi 110024
>>>>>> India
>>>>>> Ph: 91 11 26472581
>>>>>> Telefax: 91 11 26472582
>>>>>> Mob: 91 9810934040/91 9810001181
>>>>>> Email: george at eyeway.org
>>>>>> Website: www.eyeway.org
>>>>>> Skype: georgeabraham13
>>>>>> Twitter: georgebhai
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Subramani L" <lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in>
>>>>>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:08 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Is it time for persons with disability to enter
>>>>>> politics?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So... There are no elected MPs to the Lok Sabvha who acknowledge
>>> their
>>>>>> disability in public and speak for the community. The one whose
>>>>>> disability we know about is more an MP got in through the backdoor
>>> to
>>>>>> Rajya Sabha from the state legislature. David Cameron perhaps gave
>>>>> this
>>>>>> guy the ticket to contest for his party because he has a son with
>>> down
>>>>>> syndrome and is abreast of the issues affecting disability. When
>>>>> people
>>>>>> are not even acknowledging their own disabilities, it is rather
>>>>>> difficult to count them as politicians with disability; least said
>>>>> about
>>>>>> their commitments towards the issues we face. So my article would
>>>>>> surmise there are none with disability   -or- at lest there are none
>>>>> who
>>>>>> uses his or her position as a politician to assist the MSJE or other
>>>>>> ministries to implement disabled friendly policies. This is pathetic
>>>>> and
>>>>>> I would explore a few suggestions/solutions. I am sure the crop of
>>>>>> youngsters who are in college or just out of it can proviee a fresh
>>>>>> thought to this subject.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subramani
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
>>>>>> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan
>>>>>> Pamnani
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:36 PM
>>>>>> To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Is it time for persons with disability to enter
>>>>>> politics?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jaipal Reddy uses crutches however he does not speak for the
>>> disabled.
>>>>>> He to
>>>>>> the best of my knowledge does not even acknowledge that he is
>>> disabled
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> therefore does not ask for his rights and thereby does not become a
>>>>> good
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> even a spokesman  for us. I am told there are several other
>>>>> politicians
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> are disabled but I dont know their names. The secretariat of
>>>>> Parliament
>>>>>> recently told us so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The gentleman that Geeta mentioned was Sadhan Gupta who got elected
>>> to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Rajya Sabha from West Bengal.
>>>>>> According to Arun Jetley there was another blind MP of the Lok Sabha
>>> I
>>>>>> didnt
>>>>>> catch his name.
>>>>>> Atul Bihari Vajpayee  had to use the ambu lift which Javed Abidi had
>>>>>> fought
>>>>>> for against Vajpayee's government.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subramani these titbits are for your article but I am not answering
>>>>> your
>>>>>>
>>>>>> questions.
>>>>>> Kanchan
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Subramani L" <lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in>
>>>>>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:23 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [AI] Is it time for persons with disability to enter
>>>>> politics?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Folks:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is in reference to the story below. This raises  the curious
>>> but
>>>>>>> difficult question: should persons with disability enter politics
>>> in
>>>>>>> order to influence policy (both the ones that affect them and those
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> doesn't). I am doing an analytical article on this question and
>>> would
>>>>>>> welcome responses from those in this list and from those with other
>>>>>>> disabilities outside this list. Kindly pass this around and
>>> encourage
>>>>>>> folks to respond. I have a few questions which I am putting below
>>> the
>>>>>>> story and so pl read the mail fully.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Britain's first MP with Cerebral Palsy encourages persons with
>>>>>>> disability to enter politics
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> June 28: The first elected representative to the British Parliament
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> Cerebral Palsy, possibly the first in the world with that
>>> disability,
>>>>>>> has urged more persons with disability to enter politics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul Maynard, elected to the House of Commons last month as a
>>>>>>> Conservative Party candidate, has said that his presence in the
>>> House
>>>>>>> should provide encouragement for other persons with disability to
>>>>>>> contest elections and enter Parliament.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I just hope that simply my being here, in the House of Commons,
>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> who may be nervous about getting into politics are not put off by
>>> any
>>>>>>> fear of what might happen during the (election) campaign," Maynard,
>>>>> MP
>>>>>>> from Blackpool North and Cleveleys, told Britain's The Independent
>>>>>>> newspaper in an interview published on Monday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He  also said that he had faced ignorance about his condition from
>>> a
>>>>>>> young age, but had been determined to rise above the taunts. "There
>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> always be people who will use it (the disability) against you and
>>> you
>>>>>>> will have to learn to deal with that," Maynard, 34, told the
>>>>>> newspaper.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maynard studied in a special school until he was five years old. He
>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> then transferred to mainstream school and went on to obtain a
>>>>>>> first-class degree from Oxford. He mentioned in his interview that
>>>>> his
>>>>>>> life was transformed by the early experience he had in the special
>>>>>>> school.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Because my problem was with the thighs, and their muscle
>>>>> development,
>>>>>>> they would strap you into tight iron callipers for several hours a
>>>>>> day.
>>>>>>> You had nothing to do. So I was doing all my numbering and all my
>>>>>>> reading    far earlier than most children and very quickly learnt
>>> to
>>>>>>> read and write, which was an unexpected bonus later on," he said.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maynard, who worked as a management consultant before   getting a
>>> job
>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> the central office of the Conservative Party, had decided to enter
>>>>>>> politics just weeks before the elections this year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He faced derogatory comments in his constituency after a television
>>>>>>> interview, in which his slurred speech (due to his disability) was
>>>>>>> mistaken for drunkenness. He explained about his disability and
>>>>>> insisted
>>>>>>> that it didn't affect his intellectual abilities.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He eventually achieved a 7 per cent swing and won by a majority of
>>>>>> 2150
>>>>>>> votes in his constituency, which was one of the seats the
>>>>>> Conservatives
>>>>>>> rested back from Labour.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He had already delivered his maiden speech in the Parliament and
>>> has
>>>>>>> made interventions at the Prime Minister's Question Time,
>>> considered
>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> important business t the British Parliament.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Britain had David Blunket as the first person with disability as a
>>>>>>> cabinet minister under Labour, when Tony Blair appointed the
>>> visually
>>>>>>> challenged MP from Sheffield as Home Secretary.
>>>>>>> *** *** ***
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (PL mention your full name, designation/office, age , name of the
>>>>>>> organisation you represent and the city you hail from)
>>>>>>> 1. Do you think having a politician with disability would make a
>>>>>>> difference in terms of passing legislations and implementing them?
>>>>>>> 2. This is more a personal question -Given a chance, would you
>>> enter
>>>>>>> politics? Pl substantiate your answer as to why you would and why
>>> you
>>>>>>> wouldn't make that choice?
>>>>>>> 3. What do you think r the advantages and disadvantages of being a
>>>>>>> politician with disability? Are these (advantages and
>>> disadvantages)
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> reason that influence your choice to enter or not to enter
>>> politics?
>>>>>>> 4. Are 'politicians with disability' the need of the hour? Do you
>>>>> have
>>>>>>> personal choices amongst the present crop of activists who would
>>> make
>>>>>>> good politicians (ignore it if you are not comfortable answering
>>> this
>>>>>>> part of the question).
>>>>>>> 5. What are the challenges do you think for activists to become
>>>>>>> politicians?
>>>>>>> 6. Do you think politicians with disability, such as Paul Maynard
>>>>>> spread
>>>>>>> awareness and positive impressions about persons with disability?
>>>>>>> 7. Do you think it would be difficult in circumstances in India for
>>> a
>>>>>>> person with disability to become a politician? If you say yes, why?
>>>>>>> 8.  What are the risks of being a politician? Are you worried about
>>>>>>> compromises you may have to make by being a politician? Or do you
>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> being an educated person is actually an obstacle to be a good and
>>>>>> honest
>>>>>>> political leader?
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>>>>>>> disability bill at:
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