[AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request

reem s reem.ciefl at gmail.com
Mon Jun 21 11:56:05 EDT 2010


On 6/21/10, Srinivasu Chakravarthula <srinivasu at srinivasu.org> wrote:
> Reem,
>
> This is why we highly recommend people to use Braille in school and if they
> are not schooled in English medium, at least one needs to have habit of
> reading English books in Braille thus to improve spellings.
>
> As far as I know, if someone who is visually impaired and wants to learn
> spellings, perhaps, Braille would only possible solution.
>
> Folks, correct me, if I am wrong.
>
> Regards,
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of reem s
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 8:42 PM
> To: accessindia
> Subject: Re: [AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request
>
> On 6/21/10, Subramani L <lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in> wrote:
>> I gave the example of the American author's awful article to precisely
>> refute that notion. I am not an English speaker by birth and I have
>> learnt my English in the last 18 years (after I crossed my adolescence,
>> and ironically, after becoming blind). Even today, I don't speak English
>> at home. Well, had I not told you this, would you have recognised
>> yourself by reading my mails? Expressing your ideas clearly goes beyond
>> the confines of language.
>>
>> Subramani
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of BHAWANI
>> SHANKAR VERMA
>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 6:00 PM
>> To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request
>>
>> i am of the experience that a person study in his mother language, more
>> efficiently use English. because he always care about spellings and
>> grammar
>> errors.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Subramani L" <lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in>
>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 4:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request
>>
>>
>>> The criteria is not if one has studied in English medium or have
>> learnt
>>> English through and through at school. I have seen this in some blogs
>>> and other platforms where the so-called learned folks share
>> information.
>>> Even there, I found plenty of mistakes and very obvious grammatical
>>> errors. I wish I am able to share a few examples, because recently I
>>> read an article written by an "AUTHOR" (and, of all the things, she is
>>> an American) which was full of errors... so much that it was hard to
>>> believe that the person who actually wrote it was an author. Imagine
>>> someone who is making a living out of writing putting out messages
>> like
>>> that?
>>>
>>> The root cause of poorly written mails in my opinion is lack of care.
>>> People do not understand that their writing says something about them
>>> and it definitely has an impact on other people and they have a
>>> responsibility to write in an intelligible, clear way. I list the
>>> following points which people may like to take into account while
>>> writing:
>>>
>>> 1. Avoid SMS language. SMS language has had a negative influence on
>>> people, particularly on youngsters. Believe me, how much ever you try
>>> and simplify your writing in terms of shortening words and using
>>> alphanumeric, writing, as a process, is essentially different from
>>> speaking and you do not have the necessary expertise to use one for
>> the
>>> other. So when writing, whether through a mobile phone or
>>> twitter/facebook, treat it as a writing task.
>>> 2. Read sites like BBC, which uses simple sentences to convey the
>> news.
>>> If you read it for a long time, it has an influence on the way you
>>> write. If you need help in honing your language skills, you can switch
>>> to learning English or other specific sites in BBC, which provide both
>>> audio and text information for practice.
>>> 3. Never send a message without reading it at least once. I am having
>> a
>>> terrible time with the keyboard I am using to type this message (and
>> so
>>> many other things like filing my stories) since it doesn't type A with
>> a
>>> single touch. I have to hit the key several times to get it typed, but
>> I
>>> do it since I don't want my messages to appear bad (still you may find
>> a
>>> word or two with a missing A, but that is after I try my best). Take
>>> pride in the fact that you are amongst the privileged few in this
>>> country to use things like computers and emails to communicate and so
>>> have to show you actually do what it takes to use them.
>>> 4. Your writing is a part of your personality. You wouldn't like to
>>> attend a party wearing an awful dress, dirty and dishevelled. So why
>>> should you write badly and show that you are after all not someone who
>>> people like to meet in person? You indeed raise your stakes
>>> (expectations) higher if you write well. So put in that effort. If you
>>> think you can't, learn.
>>>
>>> Subramani
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
>>> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of prateek
>>> aggarwal
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 10:14 PM
>>> To: accessindia
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request
>>>
>>> Agreed.
>>> I too have observed a few mails with major errors in spellings.
>>> While we are using screen readers, we don't usually read the word
>>> letter by letter, hence our focus does not go to the spelling of a
>>> word.
>>>
>>> Yes, I fully understand that many of you folks haven't got chance of
>>> doing studies in English medium schools, and that's not at all a
>>> problem, neither that is any criteria of judging your capabilities. In
>>> fact, a lot of you folks are scholars and experts in your respective
>>> areas, and I'm proud for that.
>>> Sometimes, incorrect spellings or grammar makes your e-mail
>>> ineffective to an extent that the intended recipient does not notice
>>> it that warmly, hence you remain destitute from the right answer which
>>> you would have got if the spellings were all correct.
>>> Moreover, the fact described by vasu bro about the appearance  of
>>> search results by  search queries  is also one of the major factors.
>>> Considering this, I request all the learned fellows without any
>>> preference of name that please try checking the spelling of the word
>>> you are writing here, it only takes a bit.
>>> In fact, a better approach is to write the e-mail in Microsoft word
>>> first, and run the spelling and grammar check.
>>> Of course, the spelling and grammar check is not the best solution and
>>> it won't point all the mistakes,  neither the suggested things by it
>>> are all perfect, yet you can get an idea and decide what to correct.
>>> An other important thing that I'd like to suggest is to read whatever
>>> you have written with the help of your screen reader.
>>> Many times, your screen reader will pronounce a word in strange way if
>>> its spelling is not correct.
>>> This will let you know that there's some problem with the spelling of
>>> that respective word, which you can correct then.
>>>
>>> I have been thinking to write spellings of some of the most commonly
>>> used words so the chances of collision can be reduced down.
>>>
>>> Based on your suggestions, I may start a series somewhere either here
>>> or on my website about the spellings of some very commonly used words.
>>>
>>> Response awaited.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Prateek agarwal.
>>> Skype:
>>> Prateek_agarwal32
>>> Wanna see inside me? My blog is the telescope:
>>> http://www.myfriendprateek.blogspot.com
>>> website:
>>> http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com
>>>
>>> the best way to accomplish your softwares/websites development needs.
>>> You tell, I'll build.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Original message ----------
>>> From: "Srinivasu Chakravarthula" <srinivasu at srinivasu.org>
>>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:12:54 +0530
>>> Subject: [AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Off late, there are several emails with lot of spelling and grammar
>>> mistakes. I do understand some of you may not got opportunity to study
>>> in
>>> English medium school and I'm one of them and that would be one of the
>>> possible reasons for spelling mistakes in emails and I don't mistake
>> any
>>> of
>>> you.
>>>
>>> At the same time, please understand that postings of Access India are
>>> archived and easily available for people to come across the content
>>> through
>>> search engines and useful information posted by you would not come up
>> in
>>> the
>>> search engines unless your content matches to the spelling that a
>>> researcher
>>> is looking for. So it would be a biggest disadvantage for us, if our
>>> content
>>> do not have correct spellings and grammar.
>>>
>>> To make your postings better, may I please suggest a couple of things,
>>> although I am aware, this would be a little more additional effort:
>>>
>>> 1.       If you are using Microsoft Outlook / outlook express, be sure
>>> to do
>>> a spell check by pressing F7 (not sure for outlook express)
>>>
>>> 2.       If you compose emails using webmail and use Mozilla Firefox,
>>> most
>>> often it notify you about spelling errors and by using the
>> applications
>>> key,
>>> you can access the suggestions and use the correct spelling.
>>>
>>> 3.       This suggestion would really be an additional effort, but you
>>> can
>>> try; if you are using webmail, may be, draft your email using Word
>>> Processor
>>> and run the spell check, then copy the same and paste to your compose
>>> box in
>>> web mail.
>>>
>>> Hope this would be of help to someone. No offense please.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula
>>> Hand phone: +91-990-081-0881
>>> Website:
>>> http://www.srinivasu.org
>>> Yahoo! IM: vasugroupmails Follow me on:
>>> http://www.twitter.com/VasuTweets
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> ifriends, i do not believe that somebody's schooling in english medium
> or regional medium matters concerning his/her spelling errors. with
> regarding a visually impared person, as he/she reads by
> ear(listening), and not by eyes, ; the direct registering of the word
> will not happen. so it is very common to get confused in between 'ie',
> 'ei', 'ee', 's' and 'c' etc. so only a constant, deliberate attempt to
> clear the doubt and get the correct spelling make situation better.
> regards reem.
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friends, i believe Braille is one among the solutions, but i doubt,
how much materials are available(at least reachable) for us in
Braille. regarding the accademic materials, i feel, the availability
in Braille, i should say is hopeless. so an ordinary visually impared
person ends up in either listening to others, or to the screne
readers. There are many visually impared people who are not trained in
Braille due to several reasons. My experience says, while we go for
continuous reading using the screne reader, if we feel like any doubt
regarding the spelling, just take effort to clarify it. i think,
rather than english medium, and regional medium; how much effort a
person takes matter.
regards Reem.




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