[AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach

Renuka Warrier erenuka at gmail.com
Sun May 23 20:12:12 EDT 2010


If the reservation is in the general coach,
will any facility be given to those who use the wheel chair?
Renuka.----- Original Message ----- 
From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA" <bsvermadurg at gmail.com>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach


> yes, absolutely.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "devendra" <d_nikose at yahoo.co.in>
> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 10:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach
>
>
>> If this coach has been reserved than what is difference between sleeper 
>> reserved coach and handicapped coach? This handicapped coach should be 
>> for all handicapped persons who have general ticket. If any handicapped 
>> person reserves berth, it should be given in sleeper coach, not in 
>> handicapped coach.
>> Regards
>> Devendra
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "tkg" <gopithiruvancheri at gmail.com>
>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 11:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach
>>
>>
>>> dear friends
>>> to solve the problem my oppinion is that  handicapped coaches open for 
>>> all handicapped persons with ordinary tickets.    the handicapped  quota 
>>> is allowed in the other coaches.
>>> the organizations working in the field   of handicapped wanted to use 
>>> their pressure on the authority in this matter.
>>> best wishes
>>>
>>> gopi t k
>>> skipe id thiruvancherigopi
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "surya narayana" <surya.ganta at gmail.com>
>>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 8:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach
>>>
>>>
>>>> they have uniform and other understanding with one another. so they
>>>> can understand who is their men. here we are disabled possibities are
>>>> less. moreover its hard to recognise the disability in short duration
>>>> of time before the train moves.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/21/10, Subramani L <lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in> wrote:
>>>>> This is because military is powerful and if they make a noise you can
>>>>> hear the echo in the Parliament. Whereas if we make noise in front of
>>>>> the handicapped bogi we would likely be shunted out of the platform.
>>>>>
>>>>> Subramani
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
>>>>> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Tushar
>>>>> Kansara
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 4:26 PM
>>>>> To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach
>>>>>
>>>>> military has got full bogie for itself and they dont even open the 
>>>>> door
>>>>> for
>>>>> generals
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:57 PM, surya narayana
>>>>> <surya.ganta at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> do you feel that the coach is enough for all these people along with
>>>>>> reservation? if all the two lower berths are reserved for 
>>>>>> handicapped,
>>>>>> then wat is the status of other general ticket holders let us take
>>>>>> thisssssssisue with railway minister and other officials.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/20/10, Tushar Kansara <tarasnake at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > amiyo
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > if u had the reservation ticket with sl1 reservation
>>>>>> > it contains train number
>>>>>> > date
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > and of course one needs certain communication skills to be able to
>>>>> have a
>>>>>> > constructive dialogue with the users of the compartment
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > the lower berth generally gets occupied by seaters and sharers
>>>>>> > and then in the end it is used by the sleeper
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > so reserved ones take upper berth or keep bag there
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Amiyo Biswas
>>>>> <amiyo.biswas at gmail.com
>>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Hello,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I traveled by handicapped couch from Howrah to Delhi by Poorva
>>>>> Express
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> >> March this year. My reservation was not confirmed and so I had to
>>>>> use
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> >> facility, in my fellow passengers' terms, at a loss. Anyway, what 
>>>>>> >> I
>>>>>> >> understood from the passengers and the RPF on Howrah station is
>>>>> that if
>>>>>> >> you
>>>>>> >> have a handicapped card and a ticket in any form, you can travel 
>>>>>> >> by
>>>>> this
>>>>>> >> couch. Escorts are also allowed in the same couch for the
>>>>> convenience of
>>>>>> >> the
>>>>>> >> handicapped passengers. I think, berths in this couch are not
>>>>> allotted
>>>>>> >> during reservation process.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> With Best regards,
>>>>>> >> Amiyo Biswas.
>>>>>> >> Cell: 91-9433464329
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "surya narayana" <
>>>>>> surya.ganta at gmail.com
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>>>>> >> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:52 PM
>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> hello friends,
>>>>>> >>> i requested all the guard and railway police force. but no use.
>>>>>> >>> because there was no chart on the compartment containing my
>>>>>> >>> reservation details. even if there's any chart, how can we ask 
>>>>>> >>> the
>>>>>> >>> handicapped fellow men to vacate the seat? they too have the 
>>>>>> >>> right
>>>>> to
>>>>>> >>> sit on the seats as well as other passingers. it is pity to note
>>>>> that
>>>>>> >>> it is totally irrelavant to make arrangements to reserve seats in
>>>>>> >>> disabled compartment.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On 5/20/10, Tushar Kansara <tarasnake at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> the nearest person who can help u in handicapped coach is the
>>>>> train
>>>>>> >>>> guard
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:26 PM, surya narayana
>>>>>> >>>> <surya.ganta at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Hello sir,
>>>>>> >>>>> I too have a immemorable and bitter experience with handicapped
>>>>>> coach.
>>>>>> >>>>> I was given reservation in that coach and could not find my
>>>>> berth
>>>>>> >>>>> until i reach visakhapattanam. if you want, i can provide all 
>>>>>> >>>>> my
>>>>>> >>>>> experience. basically I am from andhrapradesh.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> On 5/19/10, Subramani L <lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>> > Folks (particularly from those in Bangalore):
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> > I am specifically looking for at least one experience from
>>>>>> Bangalore
>>>>>> >>>>> > >
>>>>>> >>>>> in
>>>>>> >>>>> > order to take my report forward. Though I can mention
>>>>> experiences
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> >>>>> > >
>>>>>> >>>>> VIs
>>>>>> >>>>> > in other places, it is highly important to get it from those
>>>>> in
>>>>>> >>>>> > Bangalore as I have had a chance of speaking to the 
>>>>>> >>>>> > Divisional
>>>>>> >>>>> > Manager
>>>>>> >>>>> > of Railways who claims everything to be hunky-dory. Also,
>>>>> since my
>>>>>> >>>>> > newspaper is circulated in Bangalore I need to see if people
>>>>> here
>>>>>> >>>>> > have
>>>>>> >>>>> > had any specific bad experiences in the last three to six
>>>>> months. >
>>>>>> >>>>> Kindly
>>>>>> >>>>> > write abck to me.
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> > Subramani
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> >>>>> > From: Madhu Singhal [mailto:madhu.singhal59 at gmail.com]
>>>>>> >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:31 PM
>>>>>> >>>>> > To: Subramani L
>>>>>> >>>>> > Subject: Re: regarding Handicapped coach
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> > Dear Subramani,
>>>>>> >>>>> > Infact,
>>>>>> >>>>> > There is no railway staf officially.
>>>>>> >>>>> > We felt some railway people unoficially was sitting there.
>>>>>> >>>>> > A big mob had entered saying that this is a women coach.
>>>>>> >>>>> > But in that crowd there men also.
>>>>>> >>>>> > the noise was so much and we are two women could not able to
>>>>> shout.
>>>>>> >>>>> > There is no commection of this coach from other coach.
>>>>>> >>>>> > It was quite broad and both the side two long seats up and
>>>>> down.
>>>>>> >>>>> > In chinai they did not listen any thing.
>>>>>> >>>>> > In Bangalore i went to station master,
>>>>>> >>>>> > he said better you write to southern railway because i can 
>>>>>> >>>>> > not
>>>>> take
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> any
>>>>>> >>>>> > action.
>>>>>> >>>>> > There is no pantry car and this will be the last coach no one
>>>>> come
>>>>>> >>>>> > there.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       Toilet was also very broad but we never used because
>>>>> they
>>>>>> maid
>>>>>> >>>>> > very dirty.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       But i receive a letter from railway authority saying we
>>>>> can
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> >>>>> > do any thing regarding coach because i have also given some >
>>>>>> >>>>> suggestions.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       They have promised that they will send to concern
>>>>> authorty.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       After that i did not follow up.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       Madhu Singhal.----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> >>>>> >       From: Subramani L 
>>>>>> >>>>> > <mailto:lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in>
>>>>>> >>>>> >       To: Madhu Singhal <mailto:madhu.singhal59 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>>>> >       Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:41 PM
>>>>>> >>>>> >       Subject: RE: regarding Handicapped coach
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> >       Dear Madam:
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> >       A few questions.... Did the authorities you had
>>>>> complained to
>>>>>> >>>>> > (in Chennai and in Bangalore) recognised that it was the
>>>>>> handicapped
>>>>>> >>>>> > coach? Or did you struggle explaining to them about the
>>>>> existence
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> >>>>> > >
>>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>>> > coach itself?
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> >       Did you tell the people getting into the coach that it
>>>>> was
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> >>>>> > meant for the public and was a special coach for the
>>>>> handicapped
>>>>>> >>>>> > persons?
>>>>>> >>>>> >       What was the reaction of the public when you explained
>>>>> to
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> >>>>> > about the purpose of the coach? Did anyone object or use
>>>>>> threatening
>>>>>> >>>>> > >
>>>>>> >>>>> or
>>>>>> >>>>> > abusive language when you did that?
>>>>>> >>>>> >       Were any railway staff around for to sort out the
>>>>> confusion?
>>>>>> >>>>> >       What was the condition of the coach? Was it broad 
>>>>>> >>>>> > enough
>>>>> for
>>>>>> >>>>> > people to walk freely? Was it connected with the rest of the
>>>>>> coaches?
>>>>>> >>>>> > Were pantry men allowed to sell food?
>>>>>> >>>>> >       Who did you complain to in Bangalore?
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> >       Rgards,
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> >       Subramani
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> >       -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> >>>>> >       From: Madhu Singhal [mailto:madhu.singhal59 at gmail.com]
>>>>>> >>>>> >       Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:57 PM
>>>>>> >>>>> >       To: Subramani L
>>>>>> >>>>> >       Subject: Re: regarding Handicapped coach
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> >       Dear Subramani,
>>>>>> >>>>> >       In 2007 january i was travelling to Chinaifrom
>>>>> Bangalore.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       I booked my ticket along with friend in a c coach.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       But it was in waiting list and did not confirmed.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       Last moment we thaught okay we will try handicap coach.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       We went and sat there.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       It was empty only one disabled person was there.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       We are very happy thinking can go comfortably.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       After contonment one railway staf came and sat.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       There was no TTI.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       But after 15 minute later coach was ful and they were
>>>>> pushing
>>>>>> >>>>> > that disabled person.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       After some time we can not even breathe.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       Noone came to check the ticket.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       After reaching Chinai i went and told to the station
>>>>> master.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       He said you can complain after reaching Bangalore.
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> >       After comming here i sent my ticket to the concern
>>>>> authority
>>>>>> >>>>> > and
>>>>>> >>>>> > they diduct the money and sent me the left over money.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       I wrote a letter to the railway department about it.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       I got an answer we will take action but nothing
>>>>> happened.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       Madhu Singhal.
>>>>>> >>>>> >       The train was Vrindavan express.
>>>>>> >>>>> >               ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> >>>>> >               From: Subramani L <mailto:
>>>>>> lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> >               To: Madhu Singhal
>>>>> <mailto:madhu.singhal59 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>>>> >               Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:21 PM
>>>>>> >>>>> >               Subject: regarding Handicapped coach
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> >               2Dear Madam:
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> >               I remember you mentioning to me once about the
>>>>> bad
>>>>>> >>>>> > experience you had in the handicapped coach. Kindly let me
>>>>> know if
>>>>>> >>>>> > you
>>>>>> >>>>> > can speak about it on the record. If you also know anyone in
>>>>>> >>>>> > Bangalore
>>>>>> >>>>> > who have similar experience kindly lt me know.
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> >               Subramani
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> >       Email secured by TPML Electronics
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>>> > Email secured by TPML Electronics
>>>>>> >>>>> >
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