[AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach

BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermadurg at gmail.com
Sat May 22 08:43:11 EDT 2010


regarding all the discussion on this topic, who will ring the bell?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "tkg" <gopithiruvancheri at gmail.com>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach


> dear friends
> to solve the problem my oppinion is that  handicapped coaches open for all 
> handicapped persons with ordinary tickets.    the handicapped  quota is 
> allowed in the other coaches.
> the organizations working in the field   of handicapped wanted to use 
> their pressure on the authority in this matter.
> best wishes
>
> gopi t k
> skipe id thiruvancherigopi
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "surya narayana" <surya.ganta at gmail.com>
> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 8:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach
>
>
>> they have uniform and other understanding with one another. so they
>> can understand who is their men. here we are disabled possibities are
>> less. moreover its hard to recognise the disability in short duration
>> of time before the train moves.
>>
>> On 5/21/10, Subramani L <lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in> wrote:
>>> This is because military is powerful and if they make a noise you can
>>> hear the echo in the Parliament. Whereas if we make noise in front of
>>> the handicapped bogi we would likely be shunted out of the platform.
>>>
>>> Subramani
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
>>> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Tushar
>>> Kansara
>>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 4:26 PM
>>> To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach
>>>
>>> military has got full bogie for itself and they dont even open the door
>>> for
>>> generals
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:57 PM, surya narayana
>>> <surya.ganta at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> do you feel that the coach is enough for all these people along with
>>>> reservation? if all the two lower berths are reserved for handicapped,
>>>> then wat is the status of other general ticket holders let us take
>>>> thisssssssisue with railway minister and other officials.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/20/10, Tushar Kansara <tarasnake at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > amiyo
>>>> >
>>>> > if u had the reservation ticket with sl1 reservation
>>>> > it contains train number
>>>> > date
>>>> >
>>>> > and of course one needs certain communication skills to be able to
>>> have a
>>>> > constructive dialogue with the users of the compartment
>>>> >
>>>> > the lower berth generally gets occupied by seaters and sharers
>>>> > and then in the end it is used by the sleeper
>>>> >
>>>> > so reserved ones take upper berth or keep bag there
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Amiyo Biswas
>>> <amiyo.biswas at gmail.com
>>>> >wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Hello,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I traveled by handicapped couch from Howrah to Delhi by Poorva
>>> Express
>>>> in
>>>> >> March this year. My reservation was not confirmed and so I had to
>>> use
>>>> this
>>>> >> facility, in my fellow passengers' terms, at a loss. Anyway, what I
>>>> >> understood from the passengers and the RPF on Howrah station is
>>> that if
>>>> >> you
>>>> >> have a handicapped card and a ticket in any form, you can travel by
>>> this
>>>> >> couch. Escorts are also allowed in the same couch for the
>>> convenience of
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> handicapped passengers. I think, berths in this couch are not
>>> allotted
>>>> >> during reservation process.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> With Best regards,
>>>> >> Amiyo Biswas.
>>>> >> Cell: 91-9433464329
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "surya narayana" <
>>>> surya.ganta at gmail.com
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>>> >> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:52 PM
>>>> >> Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> hello friends,
>>>> >>> i requested all the guard and railway police force. but no use.
>>>> >>> because there was no chart on the compartment containing my
>>>> >>> reservation details. even if there's any chart, how can we ask the
>>>> >>> handicapped fellow men to vacate the seat? they too have the right
>>> to
>>>> >>> sit on the seats as well as other passingers. it is pity to note
>>> that
>>>> >>> it is totally irrelavant to make arrangements to reserve seats in
>>>> >>> disabled compartment.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On 5/20/10, Tushar Kansara <tarasnake at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> the nearest person who can help u in handicapped coach is the
>>> train
>>>> >>>> guard
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:26 PM, surya narayana
>>>> >>>> <surya.ganta at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Hello sir,
>>>> >>>>> I too have a immemorable and bitter experience with handicapped
>>>> coach.
>>>> >>>>> I was given reservation in that coach and could not find my
>>> berth
>>>> >>>>> until i reach visakhapattanam. if you want, i can provide all my
>>>> >>>>> experience. basically I am from andhrapradesh.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On 5/19/10, Subramani L <lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in> wrote:
>>>> >>>>> > Folks (particularly from those in Bangalore):
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> > I am specifically looking for at least one experience from
>>>> Bangalore
>>>> >>>>> > >
>>>> >>>>> in
>>>> >>>>> > order to take my report forward. Though I can mention
>>> experiences
>>>> of
>>>> >>>>> > >
>>>> >>>>> VIs
>>>> >>>>> > in other places, it is highly important to get it from those
>>> in
>>>> >>>>> > Bangalore as I have had a chance of speaking to the Divisional
>>>> >>>>> > Manager
>>>> >>>>> > of Railways who claims everything to be hunky-dory. Also,
>>> since my
>>>> >>>>> > newspaper is circulated in Bangalore I need to see if people
>>> here
>>>> >>>>> > have
>>>> >>>>> > had any specific bad experiences in the last three to six
>>> months. >
>>>> >>>>> Kindly
>>>> >>>>> > write abck to me.
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> > Subramani
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> >>>>> > From: Madhu Singhal [mailto:madhu.singhal59 at gmail.com]
>>>> >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:31 PM
>>>> >>>>> > To: Subramani L
>>>> >>>>> > Subject: Re: regarding Handicapped coach
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> > Dear Subramani,
>>>> >>>>> > Infact,
>>>> >>>>> > There is no railway staf officially.
>>>> >>>>> > We felt some railway people unoficially was sitting there.
>>>> >>>>> > A big mob had entered saying that this is a women coach.
>>>> >>>>> > But in that crowd there men also.
>>>> >>>>> > the noise was so much and we are two women could not able to
>>> shout.
>>>> >>>>> > There is no commection of this coach from other coach.
>>>> >>>>> > It was quite broad and both the side two long seats up and
>>> down.
>>>> >>>>> > In chinai they did not listen any thing.
>>>> >>>>> > In Bangalore i went to station master,
>>>> >>>>> > he said better you write to southern railway because i can not
>>> take
>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> any
>>>> >>>>> > action.
>>>> >>>>> > There is no pantry car and this will be the last coach no one
>>> come
>>>> >>>>> > there.
>>>> >>>>> >       Toilet was also very broad but we never used because
>>> they
>>>> maid
>>>> >>>>> > very dirty.
>>>> >>>>> >       But i receive a letter from railway authority saying we
>>> can
>>>> not
>>>> >>>>> > do any thing regarding coach because i have also given some >
>>>> >>>>> suggestions.
>>>> >>>>> >       They have promised that they will send to concern
>>> authorty.
>>>> >>>>> >       After that i did not follow up.
>>>> >>>>> >       Madhu Singhal.----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>>>> >       From: Subramani L <mailto:lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in>
>>>> >>>>> >       To: Madhu Singhal <mailto:madhu.singhal59 at gmail.com>
>>>> >>>>> >       Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:41 PM
>>>> >>>>> >       Subject: RE: regarding Handicapped coach
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >       Dear Madam:
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >       A few questions.... Did the authorities you had
>>> complained to
>>>> >>>>> > (in Chennai and in Bangalore) recognised that it was the
>>>> handicapped
>>>> >>>>> > coach? Or did you struggle explaining to them about the
>>> existence
>>>> of
>>>> >>>>> > >
>>>> >>>>> the
>>>> >>>>> > coach itself?
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >       Did you tell the people getting into the coach that it
>>> was
>>>> not
>>>> >>>>> > meant for the public and was a special coach for the
>>> handicapped
>>>> >>>>> > persons?
>>>> >>>>> >       What was the reaction of the public when you explained
>>> to
>>>> them
>>>> >>>>> > about the purpose of the coach? Did anyone object or use
>>>> threatening
>>>> >>>>> > >
>>>> >>>>> or
>>>> >>>>> > abusive language when you did that?
>>>> >>>>> >       Were any railway staff around for to sort out the
>>> confusion?
>>>> >>>>> >       What was the condition of the coach? Was it broad enough
>>> for
>>>> >>>>> > people to walk freely? Was it connected with the rest of the
>>>> coaches?
>>>> >>>>> > Were pantry men allowed to sell food?
>>>> >>>>> >       Who did you complain to in Bangalore?
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >       Rgards,
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >       Subramani
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >       -----Original Message-----
>>>> >>>>> >       From: Madhu Singhal [mailto:madhu.singhal59 at gmail.com]
>>>> >>>>> >       Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:57 PM
>>>> >>>>> >       To: Subramani L
>>>> >>>>> >       Subject: Re: regarding Handicapped coach
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >       Dear Subramani,
>>>> >>>>> >       In 2007 january i was travelling to Chinaifrom
>>> Bangalore.
>>>> >>>>> >       I booked my ticket along with friend in a c coach.
>>>> >>>>> >       But it was in waiting list and did not confirmed.
>>>> >>>>> >       Last moment we thaught okay we will try handicap coach.
>>>> >>>>> >       We went and sat there.
>>>> >>>>> >       It was empty only one disabled person was there.
>>>> >>>>> >       We are very happy thinking can go comfortably.
>>>> >>>>> >       After contonment one railway staf came and sat.
>>>> >>>>> >       There was no TTI.
>>>> >>>>> >       But after 15 minute later coach was ful and they were
>>> pushing
>>>> >>>>> > that disabled person.
>>>> >>>>> >       After some time we can not even breathe.
>>>> >>>>> >       Noone came to check the ticket.
>>>> >>>>> >       After reaching Chinai i went and told to the station
>>> master.
>>>> >>>>> >       He said you can complain after reaching Bangalore.
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >       After comming here i sent my ticket to the concern
>>> authority
>>>> >>>>> > and
>>>> >>>>> > they diduct the money and sent me the left over money.
>>>> >>>>> >       I wrote a letter to the railway department about it.
>>>> >>>>> >       I got an answer we will take action but nothing
>>> happened.
>>>> >>>>> >       Madhu Singhal.
>>>> >>>>> >       The train was Vrindavan express.
>>>> >>>>> >               ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>>>> >               From: Subramani L <mailto:
>>>> lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >               To: Madhu Singhal
>>> <mailto:madhu.singhal59 at gmail.com>
>>>> >>>>> >               Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:21 PM
>>>> >>>>> >               Subject: regarding Handicapped coach
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >               2Dear Madam:
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >               I remember you mentioning to me once about the
>>> bad
>>>> >>>>> > experience you had in the handicapped coach. Kindly let me
>>> know if
>>>> >>>>> > you
>>>> >>>>> > can speak about it on the record. If you also know anyone in
>>>> >>>>> > Bangalore
>>>> >>>>> > who have similar experience kindly lt me know.
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >               Subramani
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >       Email secured by TPML Electronics
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> >
>>>> >>>>> > Email secured by TPML Electronics
>>>> >>>>> >
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