[AI] Seeking techniques for proof reading text

Pranav Lal pranav.lal at gmail.com
Sat May 22 06:35:16 EDT 2010


What will you cover in the editing part?

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From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:00 PM
To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Seeking techniques for proof reading text

Folks FYI: I am working with Pratheek to set up a live webcast of the
session which can be heard by everyone. Questions and clarifications can be
sought by chat mode. Pratheek is setting up a server for this and all the
software operation needed for the webcast happens from my end. Listeners
have to open the site and let the audio stream come through. Hope this
arrangement is fine with all of you. As I said, I shall share with you all
some documents which we may work on. I shall deal with the following topics:


1. Proof reading
2. Editing and rewriting
3. content and style
4. Descriptive and informative writing
5. Report and narratives 

Hope this too is ok.

Subramani 



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[mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amar Jain
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 6:04 PM
To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Seeking techniques for proof reading text

Sir,
If number of persons increase then better to host it on some other client 
like bharat café etc because on skype conference hosting with so many users 
can be problem.
Techno experts please correct me if I am wrong/ I don't know any way of 
joining two or more conferences with different hosts. and for one person to 
host a conference will require superb connection.
Regards
Amar Jain.
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From: "Subramani L" <lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in>
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 6:10 PM
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Seeking techniques for proof reading text

> I am trying to figure the techno part. Probably if I can email a few
> documents I may take up for editing in advance with some general points
> I will be discussing and if all of us can use the same documents owhile
> on the Skype call it should be fine. Also, I cn record this session and
> put it up at IP or with Pratheeq.
>
> Subramani
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
> Rajesh
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 5:34 PM
> To: mrmukeshsharma at gmail.com; accessindia at accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Seeking techniques for proof reading text
>
> Do inform the timing and the mode of such an online session. would be
> really beneficial..
> Maybe, it can be conducted on Skype and the time and contact ID shared
> on the group.
>
>
> Regards
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mukesh
> Sharma
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 4:51 PM
> To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Seeking techniques for proof reading text
>
> I am also interested, please add my name.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 4:36 PM
> To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Seeking techniques for proof reading text
>
> Surely. I hve three names along with you. I shall first prepare details
> as
> to how we can do this and then get back.
>
> Subramani
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amar Jain
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:31 PM
> To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Seeking techniques for proof reading text
>
> Dear Subramani Sir,
> I am happy to know that we will be getting a chance to know your
> experiences
> in terms of proof reading. I as a lawyer, would like to attend your
> session.
>
> Currently I have hardly any knowledge of proof reading.
> I shall be grateful to you if you kindly let me know about the session.
> With Regards,
> Amar Jain.
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Subramani L" <lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in>
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 10:09 PM
> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Seeking techniques for proof reading text
>
>> Folks:
>>
>> During my last posting on this subject, I realise my instructions were
>> not fully thought out. I am thinking of doing a kind of live online
> demo
>> of editing which may enable me to explain on things I do in a detailed
>> way. Pl get back if any of you are interested --also if someone who
> has
>> technical expertise can let me know how best this can be done through
>> collaborative means, I shall be grateful.
>>
>> Subramani
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jean
> Parker
>> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 7:11 PM
>> To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Seeking techniques for proof reading text
>>
>> If you go to their web site you will find links to the various email
>> lists.
>> I think it's www.nfb.org.  That's where the journalist list is as well
>> as the writers list.
>>
>> Jean
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Subramani L" <lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in>
>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Seeking techniques for proof reading text
>>
>>
>>> Could you pl let me know the mailing list for the blind journalists?
>>>
>>> Subramani
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
>>> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jean
>> Parker
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 11:08 AM
>>> To: mrmukeshsharma at gmail.com; accessindia at accessindia.org.in
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Seeking techniques for proof reading text
>>>
>>> All:
>>>
>>> The US-based National Federation of the Blind has an email list for
>>> their writers division.  I know that a number of people in that
>>> division
>> work
>>> as
>>> copy editors.  They might have additional info about how they do
>>> detailed proofreading.
>>>
>>> There is also a list for blind journalists on which this question
>> could
>>> be
>>> posed.
>>> Jean
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mukesh Sharma" <mrmukeshsharma at gmail.com>
>>> To: <manish10 at gmail.com>; <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>; "'Geetha
>>> Shamanna'" <geetha at millernorbert.de>
>>> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Seeking techniques for proof reading text
>>>
>>>
>>>> Very much possible,
>>>> Check options Menu >  Voices Submenu > Voice Adjustments ... > Upper
>>> Case
>>>> Pitch Change Percent.
>>>>
>>>> I prefer the sound option, makes work interesting.
>>>> Mukesh
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
>>>> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Manish
>>>> Agrawal
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 6:53 PM
>>>> To: 'Geetha Shamanna'; accessindia at accessindia.org.in
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Seeking techniques for proof reading text
>>>>
>>>> doesn't using pitch to distinguish caps help you?
>>>> Back in the day when I used to do a lot of proof reading as an
> editor
>>> for
>>>> technical documents, I had set up pitch for caps during continuous
>>> reading
>>>> and "say cap" during word by word and character navigation. I don't
>>>> necessarily remember how I set it up or if this can be done with the
>>>> latest versions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also, the pitch is slightly more distinct with eloquence than with
>>> espeak
>>>> where everything sounds the same to me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Manish
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
>>>> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Geetha
>>>> Shamanna
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 1:44 PM
>>>> To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Seeking techniques for proof reading text
>>>>
>>>> Thank you, will try that out. That should make spotting misplaced
>>> capital
>>>> letters a lot easier.
>>>>
>>>> Geetha
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mukesh Sharma" <mrmukeshsharma at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'Geetha Shamanna'" <geetha at millernorbert.de>;
>>>> <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:06 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Seeking techniques for proof reading text
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> For cap announcement, you can set to play sound, which will be less
>>>> irritating.
>>>> To do that, Go to JAWS > Utility Menu > configuration manager > Set
>>>> Options Menu > Speech and Sound Manager > Edit Current Scheme > Misc
>>>> Tab
>> Page,
>>>
>>>> there
>>>> in the list select cap and then tab to the set of radio choices and
>>> select
>>>> "Play Sound". The next button will allow you to select WAVE file to
>> be
>>>> played.
>>>>
>>>> I suggest to create a new sound scheme to be used for proof reading,
>>> you
>>>> can
>>>> customize many options by using this method.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Mukesh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
>>>> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Geetha
>>>> Shamanna
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 12:00 AM
>>>> To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Seeking techniques for proof reading text
>>>>
>>>> Hi Pranav and all,
>>>>
>>>> As a translator, I am expected to proofread translated documents all
>>> the
>>>> time. While the spellcheck feature of Word tracks down most of the
>>>> spelling errors and spacing inconsistencies, the biggest difficulty
>>>> I
>> encounter
>>>
>>>> when
>>>> proofreading with the help of a screen reader relates to tracking
>> down
>>>> inappropriate/inadvertent  capitalisation. Turning on Jaws'
>>> capitalisation
>>>> announcement feature can solve the problem, but this can be grating
>> on
>>> the
>>>> ears. I am yet to find a speech-based solution to this problem.
>>>>
>>>> Geetha
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal at gmail.com>
>>>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:30 PM
>>>> Subject: [AI] Seeking techniques for proof reading text
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> What techniques do you use to proof read text? Do you use audio or
>>>> Braille?
>>>> I am in a situation where I need to produce perfect text. I cannot
>>> afford
>>>> even a single error. I use a screen reader namely Jaws for Windows.
> I
>>> do
>>>> most of my writing in Microsoft Word so use the spelling and grammar
>>>> checker that comes with Microsoft Office. I also review my documents
>>>> using
>>> speech
>>>> but I am liable to miss things especially if two words sound alike.
>>>>
>>>> Pranav
>>>>
>>>>
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