[AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach

Tushar Kansara tarasnake at gmail.com
Fri May 21 06:55:38 EDT 2010


military has got full bogie for itself and they dont even open the door for
generals

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:57 PM, surya narayana <surya.ganta at gmail.com>wrote:

> do you feel that the coach is enough for all these people along with
> reservation? if all the two lower berths are reserved for handicapped,
> then wat is the status of other general ticket holders let us take
> thisssssssisue with railway minister and other officials.
>
> On 5/20/10, Tushar Kansara <tarasnake at gmail.com> wrote:
> > amiyo
> >
> > if u had the reservation ticket with sl1 reservation
> > it contains train number
> > date
> >
> > and of course one needs certain communication skills to be able to have a
> > constructive dialogue with the users of the compartment
> >
> > the lower berth generally gets occupied by seaters and sharers
> > and then in the end it is used by the sleeper
> >
> > so reserved ones take upper berth or keep bag there
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Amiyo Biswas <amiyo.biswas at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I traveled by handicapped couch from Howrah to Delhi by Poorva Express
> in
> >> March this year. My reservation was not confirmed and so I had to use
> this
> >> facility, in my fellow passengers' terms, at a loss. Anyway, what I
> >> understood from the passengers and the RPF on Howrah station is that if
> >> you
> >> have a handicapped card and a ticket in any form, you can travel by this
> >> couch. Escorts are also allowed in the same couch for the convenience of
> >> the
> >> handicapped passengers. I think, berths in this couch are not allotted
> >> during reservation process.
> >>
> >>
> >> With Best regards,
> >> Amiyo Biswas.
> >> Cell: 91-9433464329
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "surya narayana" <
> surya.ganta at gmail.com
> >> >
> >> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
> >> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:52 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> hello friends,
> >>> i requested all the guard and railway police force. but no use.
> >>> because there was no chart on the compartment containing my
> >>> reservation details. even if there's any chart, how can we ask the
> >>> handicapped fellow men to vacate the seat? they too have the right to
> >>> sit on the seats as well as other passingers. it is pity to note that
> >>> it is totally irrelavant to make arrangements to reserve seats in
> >>> disabled compartment.
> >>>
> >>> On 5/20/10, Tushar Kansara <tarasnake at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> the nearest person who can help u in handicapped coach is the train
> >>>> guard
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:26 PM, surya narayana
> >>>> <surya.ganta at gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello sir,
> >>>>> I too have a immemorable and bitter experience with handicapped
> coach.
> >>>>> I was given reservation in that coach and could not find my berth
> >>>>> until i reach visakhapattanam. if you want, i can provide all my
> >>>>> experience. basically I am from andhrapradesh.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 5/19/10, Subramani L <lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in> wrote:
> >>>>> > Folks (particularly from those in Bangalore):
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > I am specifically looking for at least one experience from
> Bangalore
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> in
> >>>>> > order to take my report forward. Though I can mention experiences
> of
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> VIs
> >>>>> > in other places, it is highly important to get it from those in
> >>>>> > Bangalore as I have had a chance of speaking to the Divisional
> >>>>> > Manager
> >>>>> > of Railways who claims everything to be hunky-dory. Also, since my
> >>>>> > newspaper is circulated in Bangalore I need to see if people here
> >>>>> > have
> >>>>> > had any specific bad experiences in the last three to six months. >
> >>>>> Kindly
> >>>>> > write abck to me.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Subramani
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> > From: Madhu Singhal [mailto:madhu.singhal59 at gmail.com]
> >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:31 PM
> >>>>> > To: Subramani L
> >>>>> > Subject: Re: regarding Handicapped coach
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Dear Subramani,
> >>>>> > Infact,
> >>>>> > There is no railway staf officially.
> >>>>> > We felt some railway people unoficially was sitting there.
> >>>>> > A big mob had entered saying that this is a women coach.
> >>>>> > But in that crowd there men also.
> >>>>> > the noise was so much and we are two women could not able to shout.
> >>>>> > There is no commection of this coach from other coach.
> >>>>> > It was quite broad and both the side two long seats up and down.
> >>>>> > In chinai they did not listen any thing.
> >>>>> > In Bangalore i went to station master,
> >>>>> > he said better you write to southern railway because i can not take
> >
> >>>>> any
> >>>>> > action.
> >>>>> > There is no pantry car and this will be the last coach no one come
> >>>>> > there.
> >>>>> >       Toilet was also very broad but we never used because they
> maid
> >>>>> > very dirty.
> >>>>> >       But i receive a letter from railway authority saying we can
> not
> >>>>> > do any thing regarding coach because i have also given some >
> >>>>> suggestions.
> >>>>> >       They have promised that they will send to concern authorty.
> >>>>> >       After that i did not follow up.
> >>>>> >       Madhu Singhal.----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> >       From: Subramani L <mailto:lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in>
> >>>>> >       To: Madhu Singhal <mailto:madhu.singhal59 at gmail.com>
> >>>>> >       Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:41 PM
> >>>>> >       Subject: RE: regarding Handicapped coach
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >       Dear Madam:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >       A few questions.... Did the authorities you had complained to
> >>>>> > (in Chennai and in Bangalore) recognised that it was the
> handicapped
> >>>>> > coach? Or did you struggle explaining to them about the existence
> of
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> > coach itself?
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >       Did you tell the people getting into the coach that it was
> not
> >>>>> > meant for the public and was a special coach for the handicapped
> >>>>> > persons?
> >>>>> >       What was the reaction of the public when you explained to
> them
> >>>>> > about the purpose of the coach? Did anyone object or use
> threatening
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> or
> >>>>> > abusive language when you did that?
> >>>>> >       Were any railway staff around for to sort out the confusion?
> >>>>> >       What was the condition of the coach? Was it broad enough for
> >>>>> > people to walk freely? Was it connected with the rest of the
> coaches?
> >>>>> > Were pantry men allowed to sell food?
> >>>>> >       Who did you complain to in Bangalore?
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >       Rgards,
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >       Subramani
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >       -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> >       From: Madhu Singhal [mailto:madhu.singhal59 at gmail.com]
> >>>>> >       Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:57 PM
> >>>>> >       To: Subramani L
> >>>>> >       Subject: Re: regarding Handicapped coach
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >       Dear Subramani,
> >>>>> >       In 2007 january i was travelling to Chinaifrom Bangalore.
> >>>>> >       I booked my ticket along with friend in a c coach.
> >>>>> >       But it was in waiting list and did not confirmed.
> >>>>> >       Last moment we thaught okay we will try handicap coach.
> >>>>> >       We went and sat there.
> >>>>> >       It was empty only one disabled person was there.
> >>>>> >       We are very happy thinking can go comfortably.
> >>>>> >       After contonment one railway staf came and sat.
> >>>>> >       There was no TTI.
> >>>>> >       But after 15 minute later coach was ful and they were pushing
> >>>>> > that disabled person.
> >>>>> >       After some time we can not even breathe.
> >>>>> >       Noone came to check the ticket.
> >>>>> >       After reaching Chinai i went and told to the station master.
> >>>>> >       He said you can complain after reaching Bangalore.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >       After comming here i sent my ticket to the concern authority
> >>>>> > and
> >>>>> > they diduct the money and sent me the left over money.
> >>>>> >       I wrote a letter to the railway department about it.
> >>>>> >       I got an answer we will take action but nothing happened.
> >>>>> >       Madhu Singhal.
> >>>>> >       The train was Vrindavan express.
> >>>>> >               ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> >               From: Subramani L <mailto:
> lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >               To: Madhu Singhal <mailto:madhu.singhal59 at gmail.com>
> >>>>> >               Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:21 PM
> >>>>> >               Subject: regarding Handicapped coach
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >               2Dear Madam:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >               I remember you mentioning to me once about the bad
> >>>>> > experience you had in the handicapped coach. Kindly let me know if
> >>>>> > you
> >>>>> > can speak about it on the record. If you also know anyone in
> >>>>> > Bangalore
> >>>>> > who have similar experience kindly lt me know.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >               Subramani
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
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