[AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach

BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermadurg at gmail.com
Thu May 20 09:49:05 EDT 2010


the disabled coach is called SLRD.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tushar Kansara" <tarasnake at gmail.com>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach


> amiyo
>
> if u had the reservation ticket with sl1 reservation
> it contains train number
> date
>
> and of course one needs certain communication skills to be able to have a
> constructive dialogue with the users of the compartment
>
> the lower berth generally gets occupied by seaters and sharers
> and then in the end it is used by the sleeper
>
> so reserved ones take upper berth or keep bag there
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Amiyo Biswas 
> <amiyo.biswas at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I traveled by handicapped couch from Howrah to Delhi by Poorva Express in
>> March this year. My reservation was not confirmed and so I had to use 
>> this
>> facility, in my fellow passengers' terms, at a loss. Anyway, what I
>> understood from the passengers and the RPF on Howrah station is that if 
>> you
>> have a handicapped card and a ticket in any form, you can travel by this
>> couch. Escorts are also allowed in the same couch for the convenience of 
>> the
>> handicapped passengers. I think, berths in this couch are not allotted
>> during reservation process.
>>
>>
>> With Best regards,
>> Amiyo Biswas.
>> Cell: 91-9433464329
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "surya narayana" 
>> <surya.ganta at gmail.com
>> >
>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] FW: regarding Handicapped coach
>>
>>
>>
>> hello friends,
>>> i requested all the guard and railway police force. but no use.
>>> because there was no chart on the compartment containing my
>>> reservation details. even if there's any chart, how can we ask the
>>> handicapped fellow men to vacate the seat? they too have the right to
>>> sit on the seats as well as other passingers. it is pity to note that
>>> it is totally irrelavant to make arrangements to reserve seats in
>>> disabled compartment.
>>>
>>> On 5/20/10, Tushar Kansara <tarasnake at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> the nearest person who can help u in handicapped coach is the train 
>>>> guard
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:26 PM, surya narayana
>>>> <surya.ganta at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello sir,
>>>>> I too have a immemorable and bitter experience with handicapped coach.
>>>>> I was given reservation in that coach and could not find my berth
>>>>> until i reach visakhapattanam. if you want, i can provide all my
>>>>> experience. basically I am from andhrapradesh.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/19/10, Subramani L <lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in> wrote:
>>>>> > Folks (particularly from those in Bangalore):
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I am specifically looking for at least one experience from Bangalore 
>>>>> >  >
>>>>> in
>>>>> > order to take my report forward. Though I can mention experiences of 
>>>>> >  >
>>>>> VIs
>>>>> > in other places, it is highly important to get it from those in
>>>>> > Bangalore as I have had a chance of speaking to the Divisional 
>>>>> > Manager
>>>>> > of Railways who claims everything to be hunky-dory. Also, since my
>>>>> > newspaper is circulated in Bangalore I need to see if people here 
>>>>> > have
>>>>> > had any specific bad experiences in the last three to six months. >
>>>>> Kindly
>>>>> > write abck to me.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Subramani
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > From: Madhu Singhal [mailto:madhu.singhal59 at gmail.com]
>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:31 PM
>>>>> > To: Subramani L
>>>>> > Subject: Re: regarding Handicapped coach
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Dear Subramani,
>>>>> > Infact,
>>>>> > There is no railway staf officially.
>>>>> > We felt some railway people unoficially was sitting there.
>>>>> > A big mob had entered saying that this is a women coach.
>>>>> > But in that crowd there men also.
>>>>> > the noise was so much and we are two women could not able to shout.
>>>>> > There is no commection of this coach from other coach.
>>>>> > It was quite broad and both the side two long seats up and down.
>>>>> > In chinai they did not listen any thing.
>>>>> > In Bangalore i went to station master,
>>>>> > he said better you write to southern railway because i can not take 
>>>>> >  >
>>>>> any
>>>>> > action.
>>>>> > There is no pantry car and this will be the last coach no one come
>>>>> > there.
>>>>> >       Toilet was also very broad but we never used because they maid
>>>>> > very dirty.
>>>>> >       But i receive a letter from railway authority saying we can 
>>>>> > not
>>>>> > do any thing regarding coach because i have also given some >
>>>>> suggestions.
>>>>> >       They have promised that they will send to concern authorty.
>>>>> >       After that i did not follow up.
>>>>> >       Madhu Singhal.----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >       From: Subramani L <mailto:lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in>
>>>>> >       To: Madhu Singhal <mailto:madhu.singhal59 at gmail.com>
>>>>> >       Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:41 PM
>>>>> >       Subject: RE: regarding Handicapped coach
>>>>> >
>>>>> >       Dear Madam:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >       A few questions.... Did the authorities you had complained to
>>>>> > (in Chennai and in Bangalore) recognised that it was the handicapped
>>>>> > coach? Or did you struggle explaining to them about the existence of 
>>>>> >  >
>>>>> the
>>>>> > coach itself?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >       Did you tell the people getting into the coach that it was not
>>>>> > meant for the public and was a special coach for the handicapped
>>>>> > persons?
>>>>> >       What was the reaction of the public when you explained to them
>>>>> > about the purpose of the coach? Did anyone object or use threatening 
>>>>> >  >
>>>>> or
>>>>> > abusive language when you did that?
>>>>> >       Were any railway staff around for to sort out the confusion?
>>>>> >       What was the condition of the coach? Was it broad enough for
>>>>> > people to walk freely? Was it connected with the rest of the 
>>>>> > coaches?
>>>>> > Were pantry men allowed to sell food?
>>>>> >       Who did you complain to in Bangalore?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >       Rgards,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >       Subramani
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >       -----Original Message-----
>>>>> >       From: Madhu Singhal [mailto:madhu.singhal59 at gmail.com]
>>>>> >       Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:57 PM
>>>>> >       To: Subramani L
>>>>> >       Subject: Re: regarding Handicapped coach
>>>>> >
>>>>> >       Dear Subramani,
>>>>> >       In 2007 january i was travelling to Chinaifrom Bangalore.
>>>>> >       I booked my ticket along with friend in a c coach.
>>>>> >       But it was in waiting list and did not confirmed.
>>>>> >       Last moment we thaught okay we will try handicap coach.
>>>>> >       We went and sat there.
>>>>> >       It was empty only one disabled person was there.
>>>>> >       We are very happy thinking can go comfortably.
>>>>> >       After contonment one railway staf came and sat.
>>>>> >       There was no TTI.
>>>>> >       But after 15 minute later coach was ful and they were pushing
>>>>> > that disabled person.
>>>>> >       After some time we can not even breathe.
>>>>> >       Noone came to check the ticket.
>>>>> >       After reaching Chinai i went and told to the station master.
>>>>> >       He said you can complain after reaching Bangalore.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >       After comming here i sent my ticket to the concern authority 
>>>>> > and
>>>>> > they diduct the money and sent me the left over money.
>>>>> >       I wrote a letter to the railway department about it.
>>>>> >       I got an answer we will take action but nothing happened.
>>>>> >       Madhu Singhal.
>>>>> >       The train was Vrindavan express.
>>>>> >               ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >               From: Subramani L 
>>>>> > <mailto:lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >               To: Madhu Singhal <mailto:madhu.singhal59 at gmail.com>
>>>>> >               Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:21 PM
>>>>> >               Subject: regarding Handicapped coach
>>>>> >
>>>>> >               2Dear Madam:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >               I remember you mentioning to me once about the bad
>>>>> > experience you had in the handicapped coach. Kindly let me know if 
>>>>> > you
>>>>> > can speak about it on the record. If you also know anyone in 
>>>>> > Bangalore
>>>>> > who have similar experience kindly lt me know.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >               Subramani
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >       Email secured by TPML Electronics
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>>>>> >
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