[AI] SSC Scribe experience

Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasudani at rbi.org.in
Tue May 18 00:54:25 EDT 2010


Kanchan
I do understand your perception of the matter.
However, let me clarify a bit:
1. SSC in this case refers to staff selection commission and not Maharashtra SSC board.
2. We know that it is a central government body and so for Maharashtra guidelines to apply, we would have to run into controversy.
3. Yes, there was discussion in AI about SSC scribe last week and everyone was assured that SSC provides the scribe. This was based on the practice of imposing scribe followed hitherto, and I have found out it was followed this year also at some centers across India.
In fact, form also  contained column for scribe giving rise to presumption that this year also same practice of invariably providing random scribes would be followed. We  made candidates accept it provisionally because we are impotent as a group and have not been able to effect any change in scribe policy hitherto.

I don't know why the members are not sharing their experiences this year.

4. I am well aware of Maharashtra guidelines and in fact was instrumental in drafting them.

5. Your contention that we were not proactive is misconceived.
Any blind person is well aware how tough  is it to arrange good scribe at eleventh  hour, and I did it for him, but flat refusal of center authorities to permit him to write the exam because reporting time was over, made me intervene in my usual way when things reach extreme. I am glad I could make a difference in a case and he was permitted to take the exam, though in rangling and arranging scribe, he lost extra time.

Approaching court is not possible for every blind and in every case.
And, yes, I am also cynical about judiciary......

Regards

"Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him."

                                        --Arthur C. Clarke

(Rajesh Asudani)

Assistant General Manager,
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
09420397185
O: 0712 2806676
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 11:30 PM
To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] SSC Scribe experience

Rajesh

I havent been checking my mails recently so I dont seem to have read any
discussion on scribes recently. There are some points I d like to bring to
the attention of the readers from Maharashtra. I think you know these.
  I am quite shocked with your friend's experience.
The Maharashtra SSC board is governed by the Guidelines of the Bombay High
Court dated December 2006. these are the only comprehensive guidelines
anywhere in India. I had said while drafting these guidelines that they are
not the final words on the subject and would be improved upon in course of
time. Anyway nothing further has happened.
However good or bad these guidelines are, they are the only guidelines on
the subject. They are fairly clear and there are hardly any ambiguities and
there should not be arbitarieness.

Nagpur or any village examination and every Examining Authority in
Maharashtra is governed by these guidelines.
1. The Application form must mention the column for scribe.
2. The candidate must be allowed to arange a scribe. Only if the candidate
cant arrange one then the examining authority must arrange one.
3. We have enough experience with the kinds of scribe provided by Examining
Authority so i dont know why your friend did not write to the Board and get
his scribe approved.

The normal procedure is that once you are visually challenged you write to
the Board via your school and ask for the rules and tell the Examining
Authority much before the exam. You have to submit details about your
scribe.

It has been a common practise in Mumbai to submit the scribes bonafide
certificate, copy of i card etc.
Get the approval letter from the Examining Body and then carry that letter
everyday when you give the exams.

I dont think your friend followed the procedure. I have no idea about the
precedent.
yes I am aware that the Examining authority started by making the mistake on
the application form itself but your friend had to be most cautious.  I know
what a tough world it is for us. I live it every minute. The only words that
come to my mind is that I wasnt promised a rose garden but the thorns really
hurt and unfortunately they keep hurting all our lives. There is no respite
from the pain of being visually challenged and living in this world  You
have no idea about the effort that I make every morning to psych myself into
believing that the day will work out.
Most of the times it does work out . Therefore I do advise everyone on this
group to look hopefully at things and not cynically before things even
become a mess.
 Therefore glitches like the one you described do come up. However a little
or maybe lots of effort before the event would have saved him the heartbreak
later.

Recently Vishal Jain had to fight a battle about scribes.  Garima had to do
so in her own way. For Sameer we had to go to court. In another case that is
for Kritika although the issue was much larger we ensured that she had the
benefit of the guidelines. We did not wait for the government to make a
mistake we were proactive.

I always advise Pranay to cover this issue in November on eyeway so that
corespondence can be started early.This has helped many students.

  Try to challenge the exams in Court and in any event lodge your protest
with the authorities.

If you dont have the guidelines let me know I will email it to you. Cant
attach them to accessindia mails.
Kanchan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasudani at rbi.org.in>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 1:50 PM
Subject: [AI] SSC Scribe experience


> Friends
> We were discussing here last week about the issue and everyone was assured
> that in SSC exam of may 16th, SSC will provide the scribe, as it has done
> in past.
> Now, I want to know the experience of examinees yesterday, whether
> suitable scribe was in fact provided, and if at all any scribe was
> provided.
> Here, in Nagpur a friend of mine had to undergo agony as they flatly
> refused to provide any scribe at the eleventh hour and asked him to
> arrange his own.
> When I reached the venue with scribe for him, the refused to permit him to
> write the exam, as the prescribed time of half an hour for reporting was
> over!!!
>
> Finally, I had to intervene in my usual cynical way to make them admit him
> for the exam!!!!!
>
> Now, whether at other centers similar tales are repeated, or as usual
> scribe was provided, suitable or not that's another story...But at least
> in Nagpur this injustice was done.
> If anybody wants to say that it is a random incident confined to limited
> area like Nagpur, then please do not reply to this thread,
> The point I am trying to make is that arbitrariness prevails pertaining to
> scribe issue.
> In fact SSC ad did not mention about scribe, and all of us had assumed
> that like previous years, they would do the need full.
>
> All this we are suffering because of lack of any clarity on scribe issue.
>
> Let us, while suggesting for a brand new law, thrash out all these
> absurdities...
>
>
> Regards
>
> "Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
> Him."
>
>                                        --Arthur C. Clarke
>
> (Rajesh Asudani)
>
> Assistant General Manager,
> Reserve Bank of India
> Nagpur
> 09420397185
> O: 0712 2806676
> Res: 0712 2591349
>
>
>
>
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