[AI] disability and census

Vamshi. G gvamshiai at gmail.com
Sun Apr 18 03:11:27 EDT 2010


Hi,

We all are seeing with how much interest the government is pursuing
any work when it is related exclusively to the disabled.  So, I doubt
the possibility of a multipurpose disability card being issued at the
national level.

Caste, religion etc. can't be identified without a certificate, but
disability can be identified by the very presence of the person.  So,
I don't know how and why we want to hide this aspect.

Coming to denial of services,even now, we  can't escape from being
discriminated because there has to be a personal interaction for
availing those services.  And in the recent past, we've seen some
cases wherein we've been successful in availing these services.

And Rahul sir, correcting you is a far away thing, first let me
understand you,  honestly, I didn't get your exact intent when you
emphasised so much on my option of availing benefits.  So, please
educate me in that area, either on the list or off the list.

I personally feel having disability on the UID card is one form of
inclusiveness.

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On 4/18/10, jignesh thakur <jigneshthakur21 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sir,
> In our country many people consider disability as like asirias crime.
> There is a question of expectance, if the disability would menssion on
> the card, our lots of application and other things will rejected
> automatically. We live in the country where people have not much
> respect for disable person.
> My point is that the disability on the card will not give us a chanse
> to prove ourself at many places. For example once I submitted my
> documents for trading account, the company expected it willingly, but
> when we had face to face meeting for formalities, he realized that I
> am visually impaired person, and he suddenly rejected my application.
> How ever I could convince him to give me his services. If I had
> produced disability card at that time the result might have different.
> That’s why I am against it.
> Though vamshisir and other are more intelligent they can thing far
> better than me. I am just writing my thoughts.
> Thanks.
>
>
> On 4/17/10, rahul cherian <rahul.cherian at inclusiveplanet.com> wrote:
>> Let me put it this way. Would you be ok if your religion or you caste were
>> on the UID? What if you are a minority community living in a state like
>> Gujarat and riots like the Godhra riots happened? Would you want to be
>> easily identified based on your religion? My concern with disability being
>> one of the parameters is something similar. I am sure this comes across as
>> me being paranoid but I think that having disability as one of the
>> parameters could lead to abuse of the information to the detriment of
>> persons with disabilities.
>>
>> Vamshi, what you want is a multipurpose certificate of disability which
>> you
>> can use, at your option, I repeat, at your option to avail of benefits.
>>
>> I confess that I have not done much research into this area so please
>> correct me if I am wrong.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rahul
>>
>> On 17 April 2010 22:25, Vamshi. G <gvamshiai at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> But if having disability as one of the fields in the UID exempts me
>>> from carrying a separate disability certificate, railway concession
>>> certificate, bus travel concession
>>> card etc. , and enables me to book all tickets on line by providing
>>> the UID number, and I'm provided with all the benefits I'm entitled to
>>> without me requiring to go through the cumbersome procedures, I would
>>> rather prefer to have it.
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/17/10, rahul cherian <rahul.cherian at inclusiveplanet.com> wrote:
>>> > I think that having disability as one of the fields in the UID will be
>>> > violative of my right to privacy and could lead to discrimination. I am
>>> > against it.
>>> >
>>> > On 17 April 2010 20:44, ashik <ashikhirani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Dear Friend,
>>> >>
>>> >> Only because it will serve as an all-in-all identity card. We will not
>>> >> have
>>> >> carry different cards for different purposes. Sypanthy is not an issue
>>> at
>>> >> all.
>>> >>
>>> >> - - -
>>> >> Ashik Hirani
>>> >> Landline phone: 02849-242233
>>> >> Skype: ashikali.hirani
>>> >> I would prefer flowers on my table rather than diamonds in my
>>> >> necklace.
>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jignesh thakur" <
>>> >> jigneshthakur21 at gmail.com>
>>> >>
>>> >> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>> >> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:03 PM
>>> >>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [AI] disability and census
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Friends,
>>> >> This is just my opinion. Why we want to include disability in uid
>>> >> card? Our identity is only disability? Lots of will have to suffer
>>> >> because of the label disable on the card. General information is
>>> >> enough. To mansion disability is just issue. And it will only for
>>> >> meaningless sympathy.
>>> >> Let me tell you again this is just my opinion. I don’t want to hurt
>>> >> anybody. There are lots of intelligent friends are on the list, and
>>> >> they know more than me.
>>> >> Thanks.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 4/17/10, ashik <ashikhirani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Yes doctor. I think disability must be mentioned in the proposed UID
>>> >>> card.
>>> >>> And I regret to say that the procedure for the UID card does not
>>> include
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> mention of disability. So, it can be safely concluded that disability
>>> >>> will
>>> >>> not be mentioned in the UID card. It's a sad story indeed. Proper
>>> >>> representation should be maded to the government and we should
>>> pressurize
>>> >>> it
>>> >>> to include disability as one of the thins in the UID card.
>>> >>> - - -
>>> >>> Ashik Hirani
>>> >>> Landline phone: 02849-242233
>>> >>> Skype: ashikali.hirani
>>> >>> I would prefer flowers on my table rather than diamonds in my
>>> >>> necklace.
>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>> From: "Dr Jalaja" <jalajakumarits at gmail.com>
>>> >>> To: "accessindia" <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>> >>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:33 PM
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [AI] disability and census
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>  Hello sir,
>>> >>>>               I am also wondering why the list members are remaining
>>> >>>> silent in this matter. .Let us wait and see what will happen after
>>> >>>> completing all the procedures, and when things are out of our hands
>>> >>>> nothing can be done . it is better to take proper notification right
>>> now
>>> >>>>                  With regards--------Dr.Jalaja
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