[AI] Copyright

Subramani L lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in
Thu Apr 8 08:23:54 EDT 2010


Am working on a report based on your mail. 

Subramani 



-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pamnani
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:38 PM
To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Copyright

Nobody leading the Hyderabad charge as yet.But need to coordinate with
as 
many organisations. Will you be able to organise the dharna, press 
conference or get some press or contact your MPS.
MPS are at home till about 14th after which they will be in Delhi. So
folks 
we need to work on this issue immediately.
K
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate & Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "payal kapoor" <payal.theresidence at gmail.com>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Copyright


> k
>
> what is happening out of hyderabad? any persons here yet?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pamnani" <kanchanpamnani at gmail.com>
> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Copyright
>
>
>> Akhilesh,
>> 1. Any press is good press at the moment. Print media or channel does
not 
>> matter. We are all trying for some coordination in Delhi and we would

>> also want local media.The more the merrier the more varied the
better.
>> If you have a contact please let us know.
>> 2. I know about the exams-lets see when they are really going to
table it 
>> in Parliament. If at that time you can come and join for even a
couple of 
>> hours it will be good.
>> 3. You cant file for an injunction at this stage. You have to wait
till 
>> the Act is passed and then you can challenge its consitutionality.
>>
>> Kanchan Pamnani
>> Advocate & Solicitor
>> 9, Suleman Chambers,
>> Battery Street, Colaba,
>> Mumbai - 400 039.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "akhilesh" <akhil.akhil29 at gmail.com>
>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Copyright
>>
>>
>>> Hello mam,
>>> This is Akhilesh from Delhi.
>>> Organizing the press conference locally can produce results very
well,
>>> but can we make an approach to huge channels like CNN IBN, IBN live,
>>> and some most watched news channels of this type?
>>> I know very well that people are here in this list that can produce
>>> such results within 24 hours!!!
>>> North India is reeling under the extreme heat of exams so we can not
>>> expect too much from students in spite of their willingness to come
to
>>> dharna.
>>> this question May be sound a bit impractical, however, your views
are 
>>> requested.
>>> Can we seek for injunction before this bill is tabled in both the 
>>> houses?
>>> Thanks and regards,
>>> Akhilesh.
>>>
>>> On 4/7/10, Pamnani <kanchanpamnani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> While listing the organisations I seem to have inadvertently missed
>>>> Inclusive Planet I do apolagise specially since Inclusive Planet
has 
>>>> been
>>>> very active and has added immense value.
>>>> Rajesh, the clauses proposed by the Government are being mailed to
this 
>>>> list
>>>> by Rahul in some time.
>>>>
>>>> The research paper is already on the Inclusive Planet website for 
>>>> reference.
>>>> In the meantime I would really request you to let me know about the
>>>> possibility of organising a press conference in Nagpur and meeting
your 
>>>> MPS
>>>> and of course organising a dharna on short notice.I hope it will
all be
>>>> possible.
>>>> Kanchan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kanchan Pamnani
>>>> Advocate & Solicitor
>>>> 9, Suleman Chambers,
>>>> Battery Street, Colaba,
>>>> Mumbai - 400 039.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasudani at rbi.org.in>
>>>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 10:28 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Copyright
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I remember a few days ago, proposed amendment was posted here in
this 
>>>>>list
>>>>>and a few persons including myself had commented on it.
>>>>> It is in public domain and I can not find the link of that blog
from 
>>>>> which
>>>>>
>>>>> it was taken.
>>>>> Would be grateful if somebody could point me to that!!!
>>>>> I think copyright issue legally affects blind much more than any
other
>>>>> disability and so we should plunge into effort wholeheartedly.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> "Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to
create
>>>>> Him."
>>>>>
>>>>>                                        --Arthur C. Clarke
>>>>>
>>>>> (Rajesh Asudani)
>>>>>
>>>>> Assistant General Manager,
>>>>> Reserve Bank of India
>>>>> Nagpur
>>>>> 09420397185
>>>>> O: 0712 2806676
>>>>> Res: 0712 2591349
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
>>>>> [mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Kanchan
>>>>> Pamnani
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 9:21 AM
>>>>> To: Access India; Voice Vision. ; rpp-india at googlegroups.com
>>>>> Cc: Mahesh Chandrasekar; Javed Abidi; Secretariat
>>>>> Subject: [AI] Copyright
>>>>>
>>>>>    Friends,
>>>>>>From time to time we have had discussions on the issue of
copyright. 
>>>>>>As
>>>>>>per my usual practis, I would like to inform everybody on this
list so
>>>>>>that you are aware and u can spread the word. We have reached a
very
>>>>>>delicate and important stage in this matter.
>>>>> I will try and cover in short what has been happening and what
needs 
>>>>> to
>>>>> happen and what may happen in the next few days and god forbid
next 
>>>>> few
>>>>> years.
>>>>> 1. Generally when we audio record books, exchange digital texts,
make
>>>>> copies in braill or make copies in large font we are infringing 
>>>>> copyright
>>>>> laws but because we are visually challenged we have an exemption
under
>>>>> what is called a "fair use" clause.
>>>>> 2. However lots of international organisations wont let us use
their
>>>>> material because India does not have a specific exemption for the 
>>>>> print
>>>>> disabled.
>>>>> 3. Prof Vinod Sena    realised this problem in 2002 and even made
a
>>>>> presentation to a parliamentary committee.
>>>>> 4. In 2006 we found on the website of the Copyright registry that 
>>>>> there
>>>>> was a specific exemption clause proposed for the print disabled.
>>>>> 5. The Print Access Coordination Committee PACC consisting of
several
>>>>> organisations sent in our representation stating the flaws in the 
>>>>> proposed
>>>>>
>>>>> amendment and also what we wanted from the government. Sometime
later 
>>>>> CIS
>>>>> Bangalore also sent in their representation.
>>>>> 5. many leading intellectual property rights lawyers were
consulted 
>>>>> and a
>>>>> presentation was even made to their association.
>>>>> 6. During 2007-2009 every Copyright registrar was sensitised and
>>>>> discussions were held in every forum possible.
>>>>> 7. In the meantime Book Share came to India and the Daisy forum of

>>>>> India
>>>>> has been entering into agreements with Publishers. Therefore some
of 
>>>>> the
>>>>> material that we need can be digitalised without worrying about
>>>>> infringement.
>>>>> 8. In 2009 the Right to Read campaign was started and most of you
know 
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>> details of the events.
>>>>> 9. In November 2009 we got to know that the clause being proposed
by 
>>>>> the
>>>>> government is the same clause they had suggested in 2006 and they
have 
>>>>> not
>>>>>
>>>>> considered our representations.
>>>>> 10. A delegation met Kapil Sibal the minister in charge. I must
inform 
>>>>> you
>>>>>
>>>>> that the meeting did not produce the results that we required.
>>>>> 11. Subsequently we found out that the Copyright amendments
including 
>>>>> the
>>>>> claus pertaining to the print disabled had been discussed by the 
>>>>> cabinet
>>>>> and now was pending to be introduced as a bill. Then the shocker
came
>>>>> because we found out from our various sources that the clause was 
>>>>> worse
>>>>> than we could imagine.
>>>>> 10. We have written to Mr. Sibal asking him to set up a committee 
>>>>> before
>>>>> the bill is introduced in Parliament and there is no reply.
>>>>> 11. We have been having many in house consultations and I am happy
to 
>>>>> say
>>>>> that all the 3 National organisations AICB, NAB, NFB which work
with 
>>>>> the
>>>>> visually challenged have agreed in principle and are working
together
>>>>> with the Daisy Forum of India, CIS,XRCVC and Sightsavers.
>>>>> 12. Last week we had urgent consultations in Delhi as we found out

>>>>> that
>>>>> the government would be tabling the bill in Parliament anytime
after 
>>>>> 15th
>>>>> April.
>>>>> 13. At this meeting we we decided
>>>>> 1. To continue to ask for a committee before the Bill reaches 
>>>>> parliament
>>>>> 2. At the same time prepare for stalling the bill in Parliament
before 
>>>>> it
>>>>> becomes law so that it can be referred to a standing committee and
for
>>>>> this purpose
>>>>> a. Have a press conference
>>>>> B. meet MPS
>>>>> c. Have a dharna
>>>>> 3. In case it becomes a law then challenge it in court.
>>>>>
>>>>> 14. We have been contacting MPs and on Friday -Saturday we met the
BJP
>>>>> i.e. LK Advani, Sushma Swaraj and Arun Jetly. These were good
meetings
>>>>> where of course they promised us their support. In the past we
have 
>>>>> met
>>>>> Moiley and Supriya Sule and a couple of others.Efforts are on to
try 
>>>>> and
>>>>> meet some others.
>>>>> 15. Now what can we all do-
>>>>> a. Write to each of our MPs or better still try to meet them 
>>>>> personally
>>>>> and quickly
>>>>> explaining the problem of print access and how we manage to read,
>>>>> asking for a committee to be formed by the HRD Ministry just like
the 
>>>>> one
>>>>> they set up for producers-Amir Khan and JavedAkhtar etc.
>>>>> . If you need further briefings then please contact XRCVC or CIS.
Both
>>>>> organisations are a part of the National Access Alliance.
>>>>> b. Start talking to the local media. this is important. If the 
>>>>> articles
>>>>> are published then please get in touch with me off the list. We
need 
>>>>> the
>>>>> clippings or softcopies.
>>>>>
>>>>> c. Those in North India be ready for the dharna. Sorry cant give 
>>>>> specifics
>>>>>
>>>>> at this stage and on this list. Get in touch with me.
>>>>>
>>>>> d. Others who are inclined to have their own dharnas in different 
>>>>> parts of
>>>>>
>>>>> the country also need to coordinate so that the effort is useful.
>>>>> I would like to conclude this note by just saying that there is no

>>>>> point
>>>>> in saying that the people in power are heartless or that the
disabled 
>>>>> are
>>>>> ignored...... We have strength, we have a voice and we are doing 
>>>>> right.
>>>>> We have strategy, we have coordination, we have put in a lot of 
>>>>> hardwork
>>>>> to be here. Now it is time that we get together and achieve what
we 
>>>>> have
>>>>> been striving for for so many years. Each of us on this list makes
a
>>>>> difference and each of us is now required to do our best and our 
>>>>> little
>>>>> bit. If we miss this oppirtunity we  will never be forgiven by 
>>>>> posterity.
>>>>> kanchan
>>>>>
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