[AI] Writing style, No more discussion please

Harish Kotian harish at accessindia.org.in
Wed Feb 13 12:18:27 EST 2008


Hello all
This thread is not taking us anywhere. A lot of water has flown and lets 
stop at it now.

 This thread is closed for any furthur discussion.
Harish.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vedprakash Sharma" <vedprakash.sharma at gmail.com>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Writing style


> it looks to me that the debate is not going in the right direction. the 
> very
> purpose of the language is to communicate with other fellow beings. in 
> this
> globalised world, an expression may be recognised as "the appropriate one"
> at the same time in some other region it may not. different pronunciations
> and spellings for the same words, different words for the same expression
> etc show that even if one uses correct english, he/she cannot satisfy the
> people universally. therefore, in my opinion, going into the errors will 
> not
> serve any purpose. if we are not able to understand something with the 
> piece
> of writing that has been presented to us, let's be generous and ask for a
> clarification. finally, if I have made a mistake while deliberating on the
> subject, please ignore it.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ketan Kothari" <muktaketan at gmail.com>
> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Writing style
>
>
>>I am distressed to write again.  I feel that we have decided to be the
>> second best at all times.  My humble submission is that we must aim at
>> being
>> the best as far as possible.  In fact, only because we are not native
>> speakers of English we need to take special care.  Also, when we claim to
>> have acquired formal education upto a certain level a definitive standard
>> is
>> expected of us.
>>
>> If all this sounds discouraging, then God save us.  We do not deserve to
>> get
>> any better reception in society than we get presently.  In fact, we must
>> always aim higher.  I am not at all talking all this from a pedestal but
>> would be really ashamed if I am not able to maintain a certain standard 
>> of
>> language capabilities after a certain level of education.  Let us not be
>> apologetic of our mistakes but learn whenever we can and from wherever we
>> can.  I think the list is for healthy discussion in a way that is
>> comfortable and comprehensible.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Amit Bhatt" <misterbhatt at gmail.com>
>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Writing style
>>
>>
>>> Only good written and spoken language is not quite enough to prove that
>>> you
>>> are a gentleman or a person with good understanding. If we talk about
>>> mistakes, then why to focus on language only, why not to take other part
>>> of
>>> our mistakes. I simply mean, are we not committing any mistake by
>>> discussing
>>> this off topic on the list? You rightly said: We are not English 
>>> teachers
>>> and I would also like to add in favor of your statement that even taking
>>> such language classes are  perhaps not allowed here!
>>> I think improving language skills is secondary matter but concentrating
>>> towards betterment of attitude and civilization on priority bases is 
>>> most
>>> necessary for some of our members. Secondly, I too didn't like the way 
>>> of
>>> some people of providing solution to other in a most discouraging
>>> expression. One is need to be very careful and encouraging while making
>>> other understand. Encouraging other for their good is a moral duty of
>>> every
>>> human being but the way should not be that insulting.
>>> If we are really serious in making other people fine in every aspect,
>>> then
>>> we don't need to let other feel shy or humiliated, we need to let them
>>> feel
>>> comfortable and confident.
>>> We have started discussing this matter like nun of us had any relevant
>>> subject to discuss here! I think Mr. Gobind or any member could be
>>> suggested
>>> at his personal ID with some better way.
>>> Dear Gobind, You don't need to be apologized, there is nothing that you
>>> feel sorry for any mistake. We all are here to learn and provide the
>>> right
>>> solution. No one is deputed here to observe the language mistakes. If we
>>> understand the problem or matter by his or her expression, we are simply
>>> expected to respond just that query in spite of making an issue. A 
>>> person
>>> can learn well in a friendly and good environment. So friends, please
>>> teach
>>> and let other have an opportunity to learn English or whatever but first
>>> create an atmosphere in order to fulfill the aims.
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Amit Bhatt
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan" <vadhimoolam at gmail.com>
>>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:13 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Writing style
>>>
>>>
>>>> I think that Improvisation should be the goal for us in terms of our
>>>> language skills. However one should bear in mind that none of us are
>>>> native English speakers and henceforth we should be very careful
>>>> wwhile evaluating others and after all, we are not English teachers
>>>> here on the list and I am a bit unhappy about the big brother
>>>> attitude. I am also a bit dessatisfied in such comments about other's
>>>> poor communicative skills. Having said that I leave any further
>>>> comment on this topic to the moderators. But just a word before I
>>>> sign-off on this topic and it goes out to those with poor
>>>> communicative skills. Hey guise, you have nothing to loose. If I would
>>>> have taken such dominating attitude seriously, then I would not have
>>>> been where I am today. Therefore you have nothing to loose but to gain
>>>> your self confidence.
>>>>
>>>> Vetri.
>>>>
>>>> On 09/02/2008, Abdul Razique <1988.abdul at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > I totally agree with Shadab bhai.
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Shadab Husain" <shadabhsn at gmail.com>
>>>> > To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>>> > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 8:35 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [AI] Writing style
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > > Writing style is something which cannot be changed as it reflects
>>>> > > our
>>>> > > nature - so I presume the subject for this discussion should be
>>>> > > "Mind
>>>> > > your language" or if this sounds offensive then "Check your
>>>> > > language"
>>>> > > to begin with.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Well, I would say that there is no need telling others to write
>>>> > > correct grammar here because the chief motive of this list is to
>>>> > > solve
>>>> > > the problems of blinds and not to promote good language skills -
>>>> > > however, to my amazement, I have seen folks joining with poor
>>>> > > language
>>>> > > and soon bringing a remarkable refinement in their language by
>>>> > > reading
>>>> > > and writing here. Would it not be hobbling for them if we 
>>>> > > discourage
>>>> > > them from the very outset by such insensitive comments? Tell me.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > It is plain common sense that nobody will make a dork of himself by
>>>> > > intentionally making a blunder before such a great number of
>>>> > > members.
>>>> > > We should not send out such discouraging comments because they 
>>>> > > might
>>>> > > suppress many bright futures beneath bashfulness.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I will simply add logic prevails and this Mr Subramani would be 
>>>> > > well
>>>> > > knowing as he would have edited many great thinkers with poor
>>>> > > language. So there is no need caring a gory toss for English 
>>>> > > grammar
>>>> > > here. Cracking such books and quickly dashing it off has always 
>>>> > > been
>>>> > > a
>>>> > > damn fun for me - try, you might enjoy it.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Dear Govind,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Congratulations. I presume in future your best selling point will 
>>>> > > be
>>>> > > your courage of frankly expressing yourself. Get on with the life -
>>>> > > it
>>>> > > has a habit of welcoming the encouraged ones.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Friends, I was not writing on this topic - but I did want to
>>>> > > encourage
>>>> > > the members who do not have a good English background like me and
>>>> > > therefore might refrain from posting on the list. This was the only
>>>> > > reason why I was bound - pardon me if I hurt anybody. I do not
>>>> > > promise
>>>> > > responding on this as I am very busy these days - so I send my best
>>>> > > wishes to everybody, with undying hopes and encouraging regards,
>>>> > > Shadab Husain
>>>> > >
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