[AI] replyRe: AccessIndia Digest, Vol 21, Issue 53

gopal and khemchand_nov15 at yahoo.co.in
Sat Jan 19 01:09:53 EST 2008


    thank you sir i will be your thankfull .
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>   1. Blind abused: BBC (harish)
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>   3. Re: Regarding memory size (Sanjay)
>   4. Re: Regarding (Vikas Kapoor)
>   5. Acrobat (Samuel Rodrigues)
>   6. Re: Acrobat (Viraj)
>   7. The Nano Inspiration (Pradeep banakar)
>   8. Re: The Nano Inspiration (Shadab Husain)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:45:49 +0530
> From: "harish" <hpkotian at rbi.org.in>
> Subject: [AI] Blind abused: BBC
> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
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> Hi all
>
> This news item is very disturbing. If such things takes place in such 
> large numbers in the developed world, one can just wonder what would be 
> the scale of such abuses taking places in developing world.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/intouch/?focuswin
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> In Touch: News for Blind People
>
> BBC Radio 4
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> News, views and information for people who are blind or visually impaired. 
> Presented by Peter White every Tuesday evening from 20:40.
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> Harish.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:50:19 +0530
> From: "Syed Imran" <syed.fame at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding
> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
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> Jaws 8 does not support adobe 8, though
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Viraj" <vkafle at gmail.com>
> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding
>
>
>> Jaws supports Adobe Acrobat Reader version 7 and above.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Samuel Rodrigues" <kr.samuel at gmail.com>
>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:36 AM
>> Subject: [AI] Regarding
>>
>>
>>> Friends,
>>> Which of the version of adoby pdf supports jaws?
>>> I am trying to open a file but it does not work.
>>> Thank you
>>> Samuel.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:00:56 +0530
> From: "Sanjay" <ilovecold at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding memory size
> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
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> This will not work in most cases.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "pushkar raj" <pushkar1968 at gmail.com>
> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding memory size
>
>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ravi Paul" <ravipaul.chanti at gmail.com>
>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 6:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding memory size
>>
>>
>>> Hai folks, one of the suggestions was to zip and send the file.
>>>
>>> I find a problem with it as well. Then what is the problem?
>>> the problem with it is that gmail seems to pick up the fact that the
>>> file has been zipped and warns you saying that there is a potentially
>>> harmful file that is of the file extention ".exe".
>>>
>>> the best sollution  I can think of is to both zip and change the file
>>> extention while sending a .exe file type as an attachment.
>>>
>>> hoping that this sollution will help,
>>> thanks
>>> regards
>>> Ravi Paul
>>>
>>> On 1/8/08, Samuel Rodrigues <kr.samuel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Ithink that according to my oppinion it is better to compress the file
>>>> to
>>>> zip or rar format rather than converting to other format and it reduces
>>>> the
>>>> weight of the file.
>>>> Just instal winzip or winrar and of course it is used very much on the
>>>> websites.
>>>>
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>  From: "FARHAN" <m_farhanahmed26 at yahoo.ca>
>>>>  To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>>>  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:44 AM
>>>>  Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding memory size
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  But i don't like to use g mail for the atachments,because g mail
>>>> doesn't
>>>>  send .exe files,and etc. you can use yahoo,or either hotmail for the e
>>>> mails. otherwise,you can send your files from the service provider 
>>>> which
>>>>  they do not have their e mail service,but you can uplode your file on
>>>>  their
>>>>  site,and they will give you a link which will work to accessing your
>>>>  file.
>>>>  and you can download your uploded file from there.
>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>> From: "Syed Imran" <syed.fame at gmail.com>
>>>> >>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>>> >>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 6:38 AM
>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding memory size
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>G mail recipients can send the attachments upto 20.0 MB
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>>> From: "Samuel Rodrigues" <kr.samuel at gmail.com>
>>>> >>>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>>> >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:42 PM
>>>> >>>> Subject: [AI] Regarding memory size
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> Dear list,
>>>> >>>>> Do you know how much MB can we send as attachments, can we send a
>>>> >>>>> video
>>>> >>>>> file about 400 MB or How much is the limit, could you please tell
>>>> >>>>> me.
>>>> >>>>>       With wishes for new year.
>>>> >>>>>     Samuel.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:22:51 +0530
> From: "Vikas Kapoor" <dl.vikas at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding
> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
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> Of course it does!
> Vikas Kapoor,
> MSN Id:dl_vikas at hotmail.com, Yahoo&Skype Id: dl_vikas,
> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Syed Imran" <syed.fame at gmail.com>
> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 3:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding
>
>
> Jaws 8 does not support adobe 8, though
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Viraj" <vkafle at gmail.com>
> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding
>
>
>> Jaws supports Adobe Acrobat Reader version 7 and above.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Samuel Rodrigues" <kr.samuel at gmail.com>
>> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:36 AM
>> Subject: [AI] Regarding
>>
>>
>>> Friends,
>>> Which of the version of adoby pdf supports jaws?
>>> I am trying to open a file but it does not work.
>>> Thank you
>>> Samuel.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:30:30 +0530
> From: "Samuel Rodrigues" <kr.samuel at gmail.com>
> Subject: [AI] Acrobat
> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
> Message-ID: <000801c859c1$5bc07980$0201a8c0 at samuel34bc3cb4>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Dear friends,
> could you tell me the difference between adobe reader and acrobat reader?
> Samuel
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:02:38 +0530
> From: "Viraj" <vkafle at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Acrobat
> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
> Message-ID: <000801c859c5$dd50f980$40030f0a at jnu90b8aaeb86b>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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> Nothing I guess. Adobe (Adobe Systems Incorporated) is a software company,
> whereas the PDF reader (known as Adobe Acrobat Reader or simply Adobe 
> Reader
> or even Adobe in casual discourse) is one of its products.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Samuel Rodrigues" <kr.samuel at gmail.com>
> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 4:30 PM
> Subject: [AI] Acrobat
>
>
>> Dear friends,
>> could you tell me the difference between adobe reader and acrobat reader?
>> Samuel
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:48:16 +0530
> From: "Pradeep banakar" <pradeep_banakar at yahoo.co.in>
> Subject: [AI] The Nano Inspiration
> To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
> Message-ID: <000801c859e5$5bd4e180$dc8a110a at banakar7>
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>
> The Nano Inspiration
>
> I am inspired by the story of the Nano. Beyond its cute look or frugal 
> engineering-driven price tag, I find it remarkable how Team Tata pulled it 
> off in
> just four years.
>
> I've watched and read the rumblings - on congestion, traffic, the 
> environment.  Confession: I own a car.  This makes it hard for me to 
> criticise the Nano:
> people-in-glass-houses constraint.  There is an Indian equivalent of 
> this - the "unreserved compartment syndrome".  All those inside the 
> compartment do
> everything to keep outsiders at bay; but once someone gets in - bravely 
> beating the odds - he becomes an insider, repeating the same behaviour, so 
> nothing
> changes.  We need to understand the sentiments of the outsiders - how many 
> people who don't own cars criticise the Nano on the grounds of traffic 
> congestion
> and environmental concerns.
>
> But the larger point is the inspirational lamp that the Nano story lights. 
> There are hundreds of challenges in India where the lessons of the Nano 
> can
> be applied - design innovation, scale efficiency, vendor networking and so 
> on.  I want to talk about three illustrative examples.
>
> Healthcare
>
> Dr Devi Shetty, one of the country's leading heart surgeons is also 
> focused on bringing affordable health services to the poor.  He talked of 
> the need for
> innovation and scale in healthcare, based on our unique challenges in 
> India.
>
> Using the example of a CT scan, which costs Rs 5,000 - 10,000 per patient, 
> he said, "We have a few hundred CT scan machines in India, each doing 3-4 
> scans
> a day, although the capacity is over 100/day.  These machines are like 
> planes that earn money only when they fly.  We need to increase the flow 
> of patients
> through these centres.  But this is related to other issues like hospital 
> bed capacity and inpatient/outpatient ratios.  Today, most hospitals make 
> their
> money from inpatients.  We need to reverse this relationship where 
> thousands of outpatients who each pay a few hundred rupees for tests can 
> subsidize the
> operating costs of the hospital."
>
> Imagine if we could get a CT scan cost down to Rs 500, offer a heart 
> surgery for a few thousand rupees or a gall bladder surgery for under a 
> thousand.
> This requires a fundamental redesign of all the parts of the healthcare 
> delivery system - from re-engineering individual components like the CT 
> scan, to
> embedding these into scaled health "cities" that can get a critical mass 
> of 10,000 outpatients a day.
>
> Housing
>
> In urban India alone, we need to build over 26 million homes to meet 
> projected demand until 2012, and over 95% of this is for the poor.   If we 
> ignore government
> subsidised programmes, and focus on market-driven solutions, we need to 
> build homes with an all-in cost of Rs 2 - Rs 2.5 lakhs for land and 
> building, so
> that the EMI is around Rs 2,500.  Given current land costs and fsi/far 
> ratios in urban India, this translates to a construction cost of about Rs 
> 300- 400
> per square foot for a 400 sft dwelling.  Imagine the kind of demand that 
> can open up if we can change the engineering specifications, reduce the 
> cost-per-unit
> by scale economies, improve the construction process, and deliver a 
> product that might not have marble floors, but doesn't compromise on 
> quality.
>
> Public transport
>
> The Design Museum of London (
> www.designmuseum.org)
> says this about the famous London double-decker bus, "Developed over nine 
> years from 1947 to 1956 by a team led by industrial designer Douglas 
> Scott, the
> Routemaster was designed with mass-production in mind. By constructing a 
> bus from the maximum number of interchangeable parts, they cut the cost 
> not only
> of the initial tooling and manufacturing, but of repairs and maintenance 
> too. They also equipped it with the latest automotive engineering 
> innovations
> such as power steering, an automatic gearbox, hydraulic brakes, 
> independent springs and heating controls."
>
> I think of the public bus system in our cities.  If the experience is bad 
> for passengers, it's worse for the bus drivers, having to navigate these 
> Noah's
> arks through the narrow Indian streets.  We need buses designed for Indian 
> conditions: our roads, our traffic, our people.  With environmental 
> challenges
> thrown in, we are looking at a fundamental redesign of the Indian bus. 
> Can we create an icon like the London Routemaster?
>
> These challenges - and the hundreds more that India faces - would normally 
> result in little more than wishful thinking or simplistic dead-end pilot 
> projects.
> The Nano story inspires us to say, "Why not?"  with a clear-headed 
> acknowledgement of the complexities.  To me, this itself is worth the 
> applause it is
> receiving.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:26:56 +0530
> From: "Shadab Husain" <shadabhsn at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AI] The Nano Inspiration
> To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
> Message-ID:
> <7cb36c3b0801180956v307bb030i6701fd8a6b0d3d1a at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Dear Pradeep - Thank you for sending this email to me. I really am a
> tree-hugger and I passionately love my mother earth, so I will urge
> you to see the deceit behind the Nano by clicking
>
> http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=40805
> Outrageously, our media has done a hatchet job.  Please save our
> mother earth from these industrialists.
>
> I can do anything to save my beloved earth! And you?
>
> Shadab Husain
> http://shdb101.blogspot.com/
>
> The purpose of developing things should be to develop man not things
>
>
> On 1/18/08, Pradeep banakar <pradeep_banakar at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>>
>> The Nano Inspiration
>>
>> I am inspired by the story of the Nano. Beyond its cute look or frugal
>> engineering-driven price tag, I find it remarkable how Team Tata pulled 
>> it
>> off in
>> just four years.
>>
>> I've watched and read the rumblings - on congestion, traffic, the
>> environment.  Confession: I own a car.  This makes it hard for me to
>> criticise the Nano:
>> people-in-glass-houses constraint.  There is an Indian equivalent of 
>> this -
>> the "unreserved compartment syndrome".  All those inside the compartment 
>> do
>> everything to keep outsiders at bay; but once someone gets in - bravely
>> beating the odds - he becomes an insider, repeating the same behaviour, 
>> so
>> nothing
>> changes.  We need to understand the sentiments of the outsiders - how 
>> many
>> people who don't own cars criticise the Nano on the grounds of traffic
>> congestion
>> and environmental concerns.
>>
>> But the larger point is the inspirational lamp that the Nano story 
>> lights.
>> There are hundreds of challenges in India where the lessons of the Nano 
>> can
>> be applied - design innovation, scale efficiency, vendor networking and 
>> so
>> on.  I want to talk about three illustrative examples.
>>
>> Healthcare
>>
>> Dr Devi Shetty, one of the country's leading heart surgeons is also 
>> focused
>> on bringing affordable health services to the poor.  He talked of the 
>> need
>> for
>> innovation and scale in healthcare, based on our unique challenges in 
>> India.
>>
>> Using the example of a CT scan, which costs Rs 5,000 - 10,000 per 
>> patient,
>> he said, "We have a few hundred CT scan machines in India, each doing 3-4
>> scans
>> a day, although the capacity is over 100/day.  These machines are like
>> planes that earn money only when they fly.  We need to increase the flow 
>> of
>> patients
>> through these centres.  But this is related to other issues like hospital
>> bed capacity and inpatient/outpatient ratios.  Today, most hospitals make
>> their
>> money from inpatients.  We need to reverse this relationship where 
>> thousands
>> of outpatients who each pay a few hundred rupees for tests can subsidize 
>> the
>> operating costs of the hospital."
>>
>> Imagine if we could get a CT scan cost down to Rs 500, offer a heart 
>> surgery
>> for a few thousand rupees or a gall bladder surgery for under a thousand.
>> This requires a fundamental redesign of all the parts of the healthcare
>> delivery system - from re-engineering individual components like the CT
>> scan, to
>> embedding these into scaled health "cities" that can get a critical mass 
>> of
>> 10,000 outpatients a day.
>>
>> Housing
>>
>> In urban India alone, we need to build over 26 million homes to meet
>> projected demand until 2012, and over 95% of this is for the poor.   If 
>> we
>> ignore government
>> subsidised programmes, and focus on market-driven solutions, we need to
>> build homes with an all-in cost of Rs 2 - Rs 2.5 lakhs for land and
>> building, so
>> that the EMI is around Rs 2,500.  Given current land costs and fsi/far
>> ratios in urban India, this translates to a construction cost of about Rs
>> 300- 400
>> per square foot for a 400 sft dwelling.  Imagine the kind of demand that 
>> can
>> open up if we can change the engineering specifications, reduce the
>> cost-per-unit
>> by scale economies, improve the construction process, and deliver a 
>> product
>> that might not have marble floors, but doesn't compromise on quality.
>>
>> Public transport
>>
>> The Design Museum of London (
>> www.designmuseum.org)
>> says this about the famous London double-decker bus, "Developed over nine
>> years from 1947 to 1956 by a team led by industrial designer Douglas 
>> Scott,
>> the
>> Routemaster was designed with mass-production in mind. By constructing a 
>> bus
>> from the maximum number of interchangeable parts, they cut the cost not 
>> only
>> of the initial tooling and manufacturing, but of repairs and maintenance
>> too. They also equipped it with the latest automotive engineering
>> innovations
>> such as power steering, an automatic gearbox, hydraulic brakes, 
>> independent
>> springs and heating controls."
>>
>> I think of the public bus system in our cities.  If the experience is bad
>> for passengers, it's worse for the bus drivers, having to navigate these
>> Noah's
>> arks through the narrow Indian streets.  We need buses designed for 
>> Indian
>> conditions: our roads, our traffic, our people.  With environmental
>> challenges
>> thrown in, we are looking at a fundamental redesign of the Indian bus. 
>> Can
>> we create an icon like the London Routemaster?
>>
>> These challenges - and the hundreds more that India faces - would 
>> normally
>> result in little more than wishful thinking or simplistic dead-end pilot
>> projects.
>>  The Nano story inspires us to say, "Why not?"  with a clear-headed
>> acknowledgement of the complexities.  To me, this itself is worth the
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