[AI] Maintain subject line please

harish kotian hpkotian at rbi.org.in
Tue Jul 10 04:45:01 EDT 2007


Hey guys

Please change the subject, when the topic drifts to another topic from the 
subject line.
Harish.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mahendra" <galani at chello.at>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] The blind diplomat


> but we are forgetting about both blind life partners in this discussion,
> only mairring blind person, does not mean automatik social exclusion
>  like weis having sighted partner is not an ticket to social inclution!!
>
> Rajesh, so many sighted girl mairry  blind boy's, because they are toled 
> upon
> to do so, not because of love, but mostly for economic reason.
> and in social interaction those sighted wife's are only sighted
> women,nothing more  then that.
>
>
>
>
> At 07:11 AM 7/10/2007, you wrote:
>>Well, he maybe. and I do not, for a second, doubt that a blind person,
>>[including myself], may be happily married.
>>
>>However, blindness surely is a factor in matrimonial choice, as are other
>>factors like economic security and many more.
>>
>>I get a feeling that some members regard matrimony purely a matter of 
>>choice
>>and would not appreciate use of termslike exclusion etc. This is so, 
>>because
>>we tend to construe such terms in purely legal or nowadays economic sense.
>>However, social exclusion is as real a phenonmenon as any other aspect of
>>exclusion. Many of us must have experienced it in even mundane daily
>>activities like conversation etc. wwhen one abruptly discovers that the
>>person one is talking to has already shifted his/her attention to some 
>>other
>>person or thing, or worse more, has left the place. We tend to take all 
>>such
>>things in our stride, however this does not dinimish their reality.
>>
>>When it is true of such mundane activities, it would only be delusional 
>>not
>>to apply it to more grave choices like matrimony etc.
>>
>>Basic attitudes form the core of various interactions including social,
>>economic, official and even legal. Reality of various realms is not so at
>>odds with eachother.
>>
>>I am not trying to statistically prove the cause and effect relationship 
>>or
>>correlation between blindness and marriage, though it may form a good
>>research topic in some disciplines. However, mutual impact of above facts 
>>on
>>one another can not be denied.
>>
>>Let me present a crude generalisation. It is definitely easy for a blind 
>>boy
>>to marry a sighted girl than for a blind girl to find  a sighted life
>>partner. This is the reason of gross mismatch between the number of 
>>couples
>>belonging to former type than those belonging to later.
>>
>>Regards
>>Rajesh
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Geetha Shamanna" <geetha at millernorbert.de>
>>To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>>Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:55 PM
>>Subject: Re: [AI] The blind diplomat
>>
>>
>> > David blunket was married and divorced.
>> > This is not a matter of exclusion, but a matter of choice.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "rajesh asudani" <rajeshasudani at rbi.org.in>
>> > To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>> > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 3:07 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [AI] The blind diplomat
>> >
>> >
>> > Yes, I do also inclined to hold the same opinion, even David Blunket 
>> > seems
>> > not to have married!
>> >
>> > Exclusion is ubiqutous.
>> >
>> > Rajesh
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "dr.u.n.sinha narain" <drunsinha at gmail.com>
>> > To: "Geetha Shamanna" <geetha at millernorbert.de>;
>> > <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
>> > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 1:28 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [AI] The blind diplomat
>> >
>> >
>> >>i met mr. rabby. i saw his capacities, when i met him in lucknow.
>> >> since he is transferred from india, i could not contact him, as i do
>> >> not have his e mail now. my questionis the gentle man is so qualified
>> >> but why he has not married? is it general blind problem everywhere?
>> >> regards
>> >> drun
>> >>
>> >> On 7/8/07, Geetha Shamanna <geetha at millernorbert.de> wrote:
>> >>>      The Saturday Profile
>> >>>
>> >>>                  A U.S. Diplomat With an Extraordinary Global View
>> >>>
>> >>>      By [4]MARC LACEY
>> >>>
>> >>>      PORT OF SPAIN, [5]Trinidad
>> >>>
>> >>>      AS chief of the political section at the American Embassy here 
>> >>> for
>> >>> the
>> >>>      last two years, Avraham Rabby has had the job of surveying
>> >>> Trinidads
>> >>>      political landscape for Washington.
>> >>>
>> >>>      The fact that he has not actually seen the Caribbean island or 
>> >>> any
>> >>> of
>> >>>      the places on five continents where he has been posted has not
>> >>> stymied
>> >>>      him.
>> >>>
>> >>>      I necessarily listen more than a sighted person would, he said. 
>> >>> If
>> >>> Im
>> >>>      walking along a street, I can tell there is a building next to 
>> >>> me
>> >>>      because of the echoes of my feet or my cane. A blind person sees
>> >>> the
>> >>>      world differently from a sighted person. Our impressions are no
>> >>> less
>> >>>      valid.
>> >>>
>> >>>      Mr. Rabby, who lost his sight at the age of 8 because of 
>> >>> detached
>> >>>      retinas, is the State Departments first blind diplomat. It is an
>> >>>      achievement he fought for in the 1980s, passing three written
>> >>> entrance
>> >>>      exams and two oral exercises along the way. But even then, the
>> >>> State
>> >>>      Department barred him from the diplomatic corps.
>> >>>
>> >>>      You dont ask a blind person to drive a bus or be a bank teller,
>> >>> George
>> >>>      S. Vest, who was the personnel director for the Foreign Service,
>> >>>      explained in a 1988 interview. There are jobs which are 
>> >>> dangerous
>> >>> or
>> >>>      unsuitable for them. And in the Foreign Service, were full of 
>> >>> jobs
>> >>>      like that.
>> >>>
>> >>>      The department contended that diplomats, blind ones included, 
>> >>> had
>> >>> to
>> >>>      be able to work anywhere in the world and to work with 
>> >>> confidential
>> >>>      documents without any outside aid. In addition, State Department
>> >>>      officials said, diplomats had to be able to pick up on nonverbal
>> >>> cues,
>> >>>      such as winks or nods, which can sometimes have more meaning 
>> >>> than
>> >>> the
>> >>>      words being uttered.
>> >>>
>> >>>      But Mr. Rabby illustrated another essential quality of 
>> >>> diplomats:
>> >>>      perseverance. No international treaty has ever been decided on 
>> >>> the
>> >>>      basis of a wink or a nod, he retorted, after hiring a lawyer and
>> >>>      challenging the State Departments policy, which dated from the 
>> >>> 18th
>> >>>      century.
>> >>>
>> >>>      Aiding Mr. Rabbys effort was a federal law barring the 
>> >>> government
>> >>> from
>> >>>      disqualifying prospective employees because of disabilities.
>> >>>      Eventually, after the news media and Congress found out about 
>> >>> his
>> >>>      case, the State Department reversed course. The new policy would
>> >>>      consider disabled diplomats on a case-by-case basis. Mr. Rabby
>> >>> became
>> >>>      case No. 1.
>> >>>
>> >>>      In 1990, he was off to London, where he was posted at the 
>> >>> embassy
>> >>>      there as a junior political officer. He moved next to Pretoria,
>> >>> South
>> >>>      Africa, where [6]Nelson Mandela had just been freed from prison 
>> >>> and
>> >>>      where Mr. Rabby witnessed the countrys first free elections. It 
>> >>> was
>> >>>      one of the most stimulating experiences in my life, he said, 
>> >>> noting
>> >>>      that he was one of the embassys election observers.
>> >>>
>> >>>      People ask me how I can assess a political rally if I cant see 
>> >>> it,
>> >>> he
>> >>>      said. I tell them that I listen to the crowd and to the 
>> >>> speakers.
>> >>> You
>> >>>      can sense what is going on.
>> >>>
>> >>>      He spent time in Washington at the State Departments Bureau of
>> >>> Human
>> >>>      Rights, and in postings in Lima and New Delhi. During a stint at
>> >>> the
>> >>>      United States Mission to the [7]United Nations, he helped write
>> >>>      resolutions dealing with literacy, global health and the rights 
>> >>> of
>> >>> the
>> >>>      disabled.
>> >>>
>> >>>      His final posting he retired at the end of June at the mandatory
>> >>>      retirement age of 65 was to Port of Spain, where he became an
>> >>> expert
>> >>>      in Trinidads political system, which has long been divided 
>> >>> between
>> >>>      parties, one predominantly Afro-Trinidadian and one
>> >>> Indo-Trinidadian.
>> >>>
>> >>>      When journalists descended on Trinidad recently in search of
>> >>>      information on the suspected plot to set off a bomb at a fuel 
>> >>> line
>> >>> at
>> >>>      Kennedy International Airport that was traced back to this
>> >>> Caribbean
>> >>>      island, he became one of the officials to talk to.
>> >>>
>> >>>      A diplomat does a lot of writing, a lot of reading, a lot of
>> >>> thinking,
>> >>>      a lot of talking and has to attend a lot of meetings, he said.
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>>      to technological advances and a full-time assistant, Mr. Rabby
>> >>> could
>> >>>      do all of those things too.
>> >>>
>> >>>      He wrote his cables to Washington using a machine that wrote in
>> >>>      Braille. He then read them back to his assistant, Rhonda Singh, 
>> >>> who
>> >>>      typed them up. He also had a computer with a speech program that
>> >>>      allowed him to listen to his e-mail messages.
>> >>>
>> >>>      As for tracking news developments, Ms. Singh, an American 
>> >>> citizen
>> >>> who
>> >>>      lives in Trinidad, read him the local papers. I was basically 
>> >>> his
>> >>>      eyes, she said.
>> >>>
>> >>>      BORN in Israel, Mr. Rabby, who is known as Rami, was sent to 
>> >>> live
>> >>> with
>> >>>      an aunt in England at the age of 10 because his parents believed
>> >>> there
>> >>>      were better schools for the blind there. A Hebrew speaker, he
>> >>> quickly
>> >>>      mastered English at Worcester College for Blind Boys.
>> >>>
>> >>>      I remember the headmaster used to go out and speak to groups 
>> >>> about
>> >>> the
>> >>>      school, and he used to say that we teach our boys to stand on 
>> >>> their
>> >>>      own two feet and, if necessary, to step on yours too, Mr. Rabby
>> >>>      recalled.
>> >>>
>> >>>      He went off to Oxford, where he studied French and Spanish. 
>> >>> Finding
>> >>> a
>> >>>      job after college proved a challenge. Time and time again I met
>> >>>      recruiters who felt that a blind person could not work in
>> >>> management,
>> >>>      he said in the British accent that he has never lost.
>> >>>
>> >>>      Eventually, he joined Ford Motor Company in Britain, where he
>> >>> worked
>> >>>      in human resources. After about a year, he moved to the United
>> >>> States
>> >>>      and earned an M.B.A. at the [8]University of Chicago.
>> >>>
>> >>>      After graduation in 1969, he sought out a management training
>> >>> program,
>> >>>      but had few offers after dozens and dozens, if not hundreds of
>> >>>      interviews.
>> >>>
>> >>>      He finally landed a job with a management consulting firm, 
>> >>> Hewitt
>> >>>      Associates, and later moved to Citibank. He also spent time as 
>> >>> an
>> >>>      independent consultant, writing a number of employment guides,
>> >>>      including one giving advice to blind job seekers.
>> >>>
>> >>>      One of my problems in my working life, after a few years I get a
>> >>> bit
>> >>>      tired of what I am doing and I want to change, said Mr. Rabby, 
>> >>> who
>> >>>      became an American citizen in 1980.
>> >>>
>> >>>      It was while living in New York that he decided to make the jump
>> >>> into
>> >>>      international relations, a longtime interest. The State 
>> >>> Departments
>> >>>      regular rotations of its diplomats proved a perfect fit.
>> >>>
>> >>>      His fight to join the Foreign Service has helped others along 
>> >>> the
>> >>> way.
>> >>>      There are now four blind Foreign Service officers stationed 
>> >>> around
>> >>> the
>> >>>      globe, the State Department said, among about 170 disabled 
>> >>> Foreign
>> >>>      Service employees overseas.
>> >>>
>> >>>      MR. RABBY said blind Foreign Service officers had recently been
>> >>>      restricted from adjudicating visa applications because of their
>> >>>      inability to verify photographs and signatures of applications.
>> >>>
>> >>>      Mr. Rabby, who attributes the decision to the increased
>> >>> restrictions
>> >>>      after the Sept. 11 attacks, said he did visa work at the start 
>> >>> of
>> >>> his
>> >>>      career in London, with the assistance of a reader, who verified
>> >>>      documents for him. He asked the questions and assessed the
>> >>> responses.
>> >>>
>> >>>      The State Department is not yet completely on the side of the
>> >>> angels,
>> >>>      he said. A State Department official disputed that there was a
>> >>> policy
>> >>>      in place restricting the assignments of blind diplomats. 
>> >>> Decisions
>> >>> on
>> >>>      assigning personnel, the official said, are made on a 
>> >>> case-by-case
>> >>>      basis in accordance with the law.
>> >>>
>> >>>      Even before Mr. Rabby headed out into the world as a diplomat, 
>> >>> he
>> >>> was
>> >>>      already testifying before Congress on his quest for the job. He
>> >>> said
>> >>>      back then that he did not want to be put in a pigeonhole as a 
>> >>> blind
>> >>>      diplomat.
>> >>>
>> >>>      Blind people are as different from one another as sighted 
>> >>> people,
>> >>> he
>> >>>      told members of the House Foreign Affairs and Civil Service
>> >>> Committees
>> >>>      in 1989. There is no such thing as a category labeled, blind.
>> >>>
>> >>>      Prior Beharry contributed reporting.
>> >>>
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