[AI] IT sector employment - stark realities...

parimala shinde parimalashinde at yahoo.com
Mon Jul 2 03:19:04 EDT 2007


Yes Harish
  I am seeing these alternative opportunities internaly.
   
  Thanks and regards
  Parimala

Harish Kotian <kotian at gawab.com> wrote:
  Hi Parimala

Isn't there a possibility of say changing department or may be moving to 
another team?

Quite often persons do matter.

Opportunities does smile to everyone at some point or another, however, 
taking the right decision is very crucial then.
Harish.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "parimala shinde" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] IT sector employment - stark realities...


> Kanchan,
>
> Yes I am treeted on par with my sighted coligues when it comes to my pay 
> scale.
>
> I can say so because I have verified it.
>
> When I brought out the growth factor as my concern, I meant I am not 
> allowed to move to a higher position.
> This is more so because my current people manager feels I can't handel 
> much responsibilities because I am a disabled.
>
> The growth factor, and the kind of appraisals, and my regularization 
> largely depends on my manager.
> What depresses me the most is the fact that I have to undergo such an ill 
> treatment dispite giving my 100%.
> What depresses me further is the fact that IBM offers N number of on-line 
> and off-line courses which the contracters are not elegible to take up.
> I shall send you a copy of my offer letter privately.
> Thanks and regards
> Parimala
>
>
> pamnani wrote:
> Parimala
> Thank you for your honesty. Since you are the only one speaking out please
> help me by answering a couple of questions.
> 1. the first question is do you get the same pay as a sighted colleague 
> who
> had joined IBM at the same time as you?
>
> Please do not compare yourself with non IBM employees and not with 
> employees
> who have not joined at the same time as you.
>
> 2. I do want to see your contract please and this has got to do nothing 
> with
> your salary. so if possible please send it to me.
>
> 3. As a contract employee less TDS is cut as compared to TDS rates for a
> salaried employee.
> 4. If you are assessable to Income Tax then it is better to be on contract
> than on salary.
> 5. if you were asked to compare your current salary with that of a sighted
> colleague who joined IBM at the same time what would be the difference?-
> percentage or amount.
> 6. What do you mean by growth. Explain in detail.
> Kanchan
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "parimala shinde"
>
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 14:21
> Subject: Re: [AI] IT sector employment - stark realities...
>
>
>> Hay Kanchan!
>>
>> I am not discriminated when it comes to the pay scale.
>> I must admit that I am drawing a handsome pay when compared to my non IBM
>> counterparts.
>>
>> The discrimination is in terms of growth and my regularisation.
>>
>> IBM's policies wouldn't permit a non IBM employee to grow, or to ask for
>> a reward when he or she is performing simply great, and is doing so on
>> power with his or her regular counterparts .
>>
>> There are a lot of other benifits which a contracter is denied.
>>
>> A hearing impaired friend of myne called Ashvini Kishen too is a victim
>> of the same process.
>>
>> We can not possibely go for a battle with the IBM HR because of the
>> nature of our employment.
>>
>> I suppose the best option for us is to either move out of IBM, or look
>> for an internal movement.
>>
>> Thanks and regards
>> Parimala
>>
>> pamnani wrote:
>>
>> Parimala,
>> Are you geting paid less than the sighted people who joined at the same
>> time?
>> Would you mind emailing me privately your contract- scanned or etext and 
>> I
>> promise not to share it with anyone.
>> Kanchan
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "parimala shinde"
>>
>> To:
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 10:15
>> Subject: Re: [AI] IT sector employment - stark realities...
>>
>>
>> Hay Sudheer!
>>
>> Thanks a million for bringing such a vital topic on to the list to be
>> discussed and debated.
>>
>> In fact, I was more than a 100 times thrilled with the news IT sectors
>> opening up for the PWD category.
>>
>> But let me tell you the hard realities of being employed in an IT company
>> as to what it really feels to be getting the kind of treatment meted out
>> to
>> myself, and a hearing impaired friend of mine called Ashvini Kishen.
>>
>> Things look and sound greener at the top of it. But the hard realities
>> hear are completely different. I was happy to know that I've cleared my
>> interview at IBM. I was more than shocked to receive a call from an 
>> agency
>> called Manpower asking me to collect the offer letter.
>>
>> But wait!!! This was not all!!!
>>
>> I was told that my contract was for just 6 months.
>>
>> I had a word with my computer teacher Ms. Shanti Raghavan on the terms
>> and conditions of the contract to me where I was told that this is a tool
>> employed by most of the IT Company's to keep the count low.
>>
>> I did accept the offer for the higher remuneration that was offered.
>>
>> I therefore joined IBM on the 30th September 2005, and am still working 
>> on
>> a contract basis.
>>
>> I've proved myself long time a go, and as many times as I needed to.
>> Some thing more disheartening for Ashvini and myself is that wile our non
>> disabled juniors have bin promoted and have bin regularized, our 
>> positions
>> have bin the same, of course we are given an appraisal each year.
>> I did negotiate on the contract part with my people manager, but it seems
>> like all my efforts have gone worthless.
>>
>> I've therefore decided not to break my head against the wall, and to go
>> for some thing else which is more productive in terms of rewards, and am
>> willing to put the kind of effort and hard work the job demands out of 
>> me.
>> And friends trust me, ones you tend to enter this kind of a cobweb, there
>> is no easy escape out of it.
>>
>> My sincere advice to my friends opting for a career out of the IT sector
>> is to be very careful in negotiating the terms of the offer before hand.
>>
>> Thanks and regards
>> Parimala
>>
>>
>> "Sudhir R (NeSTIT)" wrote: Dear friends,
>>
>> We have all been enthused in recent months by the continuous stream of
>> 'heart-warming' news reports from the booming IT and ITES sectors of 
>> India
>> opening their doors to the visually challenged. But, closer observation 
>> of
>> the facts on the ground reveal certain trends that are disquieting and
>> disillusioning and though not politically correct, I thought I must bring
>> these to the kind attention of Access Indians.
>>
>> a) It seems many of those who have been recruited have been taken in as
>> contract employees and remain so for years together. The professed excuse
>> bandied by the companies is that they want to keep the actual employee
>> count
>> low. This excuse would have held water had not the companies gladly
>> confirmed the non-disabled staff members who were recruited along with or
>> much later than their disabled counterparts. I can understand a company
>> extending an employee's probation if he does not measure up, but,
>> extending
>> contracts umpteen number of times seem to take on sinister tones.
>>
>> b) Simultaneously, I think these unfortunate disabled candidates also
>> suffer
>> discriminatory treatment vis-a-vis their non-disabled peers in terms of
>> compensation and benefit, seniority etc due to the long years they spend
>> as
>> contract employees.
>>
>> c) It may be fashionable to explain this phenomenon as a modern trend in
>> employment thanks to globalisation, but, when it applies only to one
>> segment
>> of (disadvantaged) employees, I prefer to call it high-handed
>> discrimination. India does not have a social security mechanism in place
>> and
>> the best bet for any disabled resource is still the security of a regular
>> job. Unfortunately, the current practice seems to be denying this precise
>> safety net to the disabled.
>>
>> I am not sure how many of Access Indians working in the IT / ITES sector
>> are
>> currently suffering this discrimination silently, hoping to be confirmed
>> in
>> the years to come. But, anecdotal evidence has shown me that many of the
>> so-called 'equal opportunity employers' who hog media limelight with 
>> their
>> 'diversity enrichment' programmes are major culprits of this shameful
>> practice. May be, a few of the silent sufferers should speak out for the
>> sake of other starry-eyed youngsters who have been building castles in
>> thin
>> air after reading all these media reports.
>>
>> Simultaneously, can legal eagles like Kanchan and Rajesh educate us about
>> the current Indian laws applicable to the rights of contract employees ? 
>> I
>> am sure it is mandatory for a company to confirm an employee after a
>> particular period of being a contract employee. How does one go about
>> enforcing such laws and how risky would such a procedure be ?
>>
>> And, Subramony, can you smell a journalistic scoop in this issue ?
>>
>>
>> I have been an avid votary of the IT and ITES sector as possible sources
>> of
>> fullfilling and well-paying careers for the visually challenged and have
>> even been discouraging the local youngsters from looking at the
>> unglamourous
>> Government sector, but, I should admit this revelation has forced me to
>> revise my recommendations. In fact, I have started wondering whether this
>> phenomenon is restricted merely to the IT / ITES sector or a
>> characteristic
>> of the entire private sector. I know of at least one case in Kerala where
>> a
>> manufacturing company has been employing a visually challenged youngster
>> for
>> almost 9 years as a contract employee at half the salary he would have
>> been
>> entitled for in regular service.
>>
>> Please share your individual views, suggestions and experiences in this
>> matter. Skeletons have remained in the corporate cupboards for too long,
>> methinks...
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> R Sudhir
>> M: 098 472 76 126
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